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This is not caused by Trump pushing back against against these countries exploiting the United States. These countries already held these attitudes, now they’re

This is not caused by Trump pushing back against against these countries exploiting the United States. These countries already held these attitudes, now they’re just saying it in English.

malfist 1y ago
Exactly how did South Korea exploit the United States?
- keepamovin 1y ago
  Unfair barriers to their market, IP theft, exploiting of loopholes (e.g., tranship Chinese goods relabeled MIK), subsidies and dumping.
  - malfist 1y ago
    Please be specific. What IP did south Korea steal from the US?
    - keepamovin 1y ago
      Sure, but...you can just do an LLM search if you want to learn, so ...? Wait - you're just being performative to pretend it's not happening, chyeah? Ohhh, okay. So I need to counter with facts so the 'narrative' maintains that it is happening, otherwise you've 'proven' that it's not, via your unanswered request, right? Okay, so -- while you're basically simping for SK here, yes? Invested, ethnic? -- Anyway, sure, here's a tiny fraction: - Kolon Industries Inc. (South Korea/n) Pleads Guilty for Conspiring to Steal DuPont Trade Secrets Involving Kevlar Technology https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/kolon-industries-inc-pleads-guilty-conspiring-steal-dupont-trade-secrets-involving-kevlar https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/kolon-industries-inc... - Toray Chemical Korea Resolves Attempted Theft Of Trade Secrets Investigation And Agrees To Pay Over $2 Million Penalty https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/toray-chemical-korea-resolves-attempted-theft-trade-secrets-investigation-and-agrees https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/toray-chemical-korea-re... - Idaho National Laboratory (INL) Espionage Attempt https://www.tmpcinc.com/espionage-case-doe-lab-contractor-employee-terminated/ https://www.tmpcinc.com/espionage-case-doe-lab-contractor-em... - SK (Samsung) steals DRAM from US companies (uses softening, weasel language you'll like): 'Samsung adopted a dual strategy for development of the 256K DRAM generation, following extensive "reverse engineering" of Micron's design (Ernst 1994b: 81). Two teams, one in Silicon Valley and the other in Korea, simultaneously started the same work. In October 1984, the Korea-based team developed a 256K DRAM sample. In early 1985 the Silicon Valley team developed one, and this was the sample adopted for mass production (Ernst 1994b). The DRAM case provides one of the most important examples of Samsung's practice of creating new capability by quickly combining new knowledge and information from foreign sources with its accumulated current skill base' https://brie.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/wp106.pdf https://brie.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/wp106.pdf - 1992–1994: Micron accuses Hyundai & Goldstar (LG) of using Micron’s DRAM process; ITC case and settlement. https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/11/13/Micron-files-patent-infringement-complaint/7546721630800/ https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/11/13/Micron-files-patent-... "In Nov 1992 Micron filed a Section 337 complaint at the U.S. International Trade Commission alleging imported DRAMs “manufactured abroad by a process” covered by Micron’s U.S. Patent 4,436,584. The investigation (337-TA-345) was terminated in 1994 after Micron and Hyundai executed a settlement and license agreement; Micron’s own 1994 annual report also notes cross-licenses with Goldstar and Hyundai and dismissal of the ITC action. This is the clearest, contemporaneous paper trail that Micron said its process IP was being used without permission and then licensed it via settlement." https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1994-03-16/html/94-6128.htm https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1994-03-16/html/94-61... etc ...
scotty79 1y ago
You can easily check who exploits whom by looking at trade deficit. US got goods and services from every other country in the world in exchange for freshly printed paper. For many decades now.
favflam 1y ago
I smell a digital service tax coming on all the FANG shmang companies who have been making bank off our allies. I don't see how Zuckerberg, Bezos, or anyone in the tech industry is going to come out of this unscathed with this kind of attitude prevalent in the tech industry. Maybe they think either there will be no consequences or they can make enough money off of the US market alone.

This is not caused by Trump pushing back against against these countries exploiting the United States. These countries already held these attitudes, now they’re just saying it in English.

malfist 1y ago

Exactly how did South Korea exploit the United States?

keepamovin 1y ago
Unfair barriers to their market, IP theft, exploiting of loopholes (e.g., tranship Chinese goods relabeled MIK), subsidies and dumping.
- malfist 1y ago
  Please be specific. What IP did south Korea steal from the US?
  - keepamovin 1y ago
    Sure, but...you can just do an LLM search if you want to learn, so ...? Wait - you're just being performative to pretend it's not happening, chyeah? Ohhh, okay. So I need to counter with facts so the 'narrative' maintains that it is happening, otherwise you've 'proven' that it's not, via your unanswered request, right? Okay, so -- while you're basically simping for SK here, yes? Invested, ethnic? -- Anyway, sure, here's a tiny fraction: - Kolon Industries Inc. (South Korea/n) Pleads Guilty for Conspiring to Steal DuPont Trade Secrets Involving Kevlar Technology https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/kolon-industries-inc-pleads-guilty-conspiring-steal-dupont-trade-secrets-involving-kevlar https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/kolon-industries-inc... - Toray Chemical Korea Resolves Attempted Theft Of Trade Secrets Investigation And Agrees To Pay Over $2 Million Penalty https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/toray-chemical-korea-resolves-attempted-theft-trade-secrets-investigation-and-agrees https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/toray-chemical-korea-re... - Idaho National Laboratory (INL) Espionage Attempt https://www.tmpcinc.com/espionage-case-doe-lab-contractor-employee-terminated/ https://www.tmpcinc.com/espionage-case-doe-lab-contractor-em... - SK (Samsung) steals DRAM from US companies (uses softening, weasel language you'll like): 'Samsung adopted a dual strategy for development of the 256K DRAM generation, following extensive "reverse engineering" of Micron's design (Ernst 1994b: 81). Two teams, one in Silicon Valley and the other in Korea, simultaneously started the same work. In October 1984, the Korea-based team developed a 256K DRAM sample. In early 1985 the Silicon Valley team developed one, and this was the sample adopted for mass production (Ernst 1994b). The DRAM case provides one of the most important examples of Samsung's practice of creating new capability by quickly combining new knowledge and information from foreign sources with its accumulated current skill base' https://brie.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/wp106.pdf https://brie.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/wp106.pdf - 1992–1994: Micron accuses Hyundai & Goldstar (LG) of using Micron’s DRAM process; ITC case and settlement. https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/11/13/Micron-files-patent-infringement-complaint/7546721630800/ https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/11/13/Micron-files-patent-... "In Nov 1992 Micron filed a Section 337 complaint at the U.S. International Trade Commission alleging imported DRAMs “manufactured abroad by a process” covered by Micron’s U.S. Patent 4,436,584. The investigation (337-TA-345) was terminated in 1994 after Micron and Hyundai executed a settlement and license agreement; Micron’s own 1994 annual report also notes cross-licenses with Goldstar and Hyundai and dismissal of the ITC action. This is the clearest, contemporaneous paper trail that Micron said its process IP was being used without permission and then licensed it via settlement." https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1994-03-16/html/94-6128.htm https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1994-03-16/html/94-61... etc ...

scotty79 1y ago

You can easily check who exploits whom by looking at trade deficit. US got goods and services from every other country in the world in exchange for freshly printed paper. For many decades now.

favflam 1y ago

I smell a digital service tax coming on all the FANG shmang companies who have been making bank off our allies. I don't see how Zuckerberg, Bezos, or anyone in the tech industry is going to come out of this unscathed with this kind of attitude prevalent in the tech industry. Maybe they think either there will be no consequences or they can make enough money off of the US market alone.