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You state that Nootropics work, or else they wouldn't be available/approved. However drugs that would generally be considered psychoactive aren't approved as no
by robbiep 14y ago
You state that Nootropics work, or else they wouldn't be available/approved. However drugs that would generally be considered psychoactive aren't approved as nootropics, they are approved as part of the food and beverage industry/anti depressant/anti-narcolepsy/anti-ADD aids (Modafinil, Adderall, nicotine, caffeine).
Their use as nootropics is secondary to their licensed use and their current popularity is, I believe, mostly to the technological sophistication of society, with a quest for constant improvement and productivity metrics.
>|They're designed for a purpose. They must be efficacious for that purpose.
Why? That is fallacious. They aren't designed for the purpose they are touted for, and as you correctly point out later, the article that these comments all relate to primarily refer to supplements rather than drugs per se .
>| Where do you think heroin came from?
What are you talking about? The military had nothing to do with Heroin.
Now, I use caffeine, nicotine and modafinil regularly. But that does not legitimise all drugs/supplements that have had the label 'nootropic' added to them by passionate advocates for human mental advancement and improvement, and the comment that is currently the first post in this thread I believe correctly points out what is required in order to establish evidence around the efficacy of these drugs.
We should not be too rapid in our praise of miracle cures and treatments, history shows that most of them are a load of shit.
ps. try asterisks for italics
- Pongo_the_Great 14y agoThankyou! I presume this will bold* Of course, I was referring to the inverted U effect earlier ~ given we guess that HN is full of highly intelligent people, they'll not see as much benefit as others. However, the USA currently has a glut of anxiety / depression based disorders, and I suspect that HN has statistically more "introverts" than many other places on the web. i.e. I guess that social anxiety will be higher here than say, "Jock McGee's NFL Tavern" forum. I'll attempt to only use PubMed links in respect of people not having to tunnel through paywalls: Anxiolytic effects of aniracetam in three different mouse models of anxiety and the underlying mechanism. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11412837?dopt=Abstract&holding=npg http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11412837?dopt=Abstract... Antidepressant activity of memory-enhancing drugs in the reduction of submissive behavior model. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11959085?dopt=Abstract&holding=npg http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11959085?dopt=Abstract... Free but via paywalled garden Piracetam: A Review of Pharmacological Properties and Clinical Uses http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1527-3458.2005.tb00268.x/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1527-3458.2005.... Modulating effect of the nootropic drug, piracetam on stress- and subsequent morphine-induced prolactin secretion in male rats http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1476-5381.1996.tb15218.x/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1476-5381.1996.... There's plenty of evidence that these drugs might be very useful for exactly the social induced psychological issues that plague modern society.