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This is the worst kind of censorship. I guess debate is also dead.
by swader999 1y ago
This is the worst kind of censorship. I guess debate is also dead.
- typeofhuman 1y ago[flagged]
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- swader999 1y agoI don't think you could say this about Charlie Kirk at least.
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- analognoise 1y agoI thought empathy was optional?
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- lexandstuff 1y agoNo, this violence is from a deranged person who shouldn't have had access to a firearm in the first place. No culture wars please.
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- kristofferR 1y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_le...
- dang 1y agoPlease stop using HN for ideological battle, especially in this thread. You're far from the only account doing this, of course, but (perhaps due to randomness) I've noticed several places you've done it in this thread, in contradiction of both https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45203452 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45203452 and https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- averageRoyalty 1y ago
- faku812 1y ago"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."
- sockaddr 1y agoI feel like this quote needs a qualification. You can still fear what someone might say without fearing they are correct.
- kulahan 1y agoThis is exactly what the quote is saying. You are adding on your own layer of bias by assuming he’s incorrect.
- DangitBobby 1y agoI don't agree; pointing out the words are lies certainly turns the quote on its head for me.
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- swader999 1y agoI'd be surprised if you could post a source for this, not just a clip, but something with the entire context?
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- duckdriver 1y ago> Charlie Kirk was never involved in real debate. This is untrue. You may have seen some of the many "own the libs" style edits of him out there, some of which he/his team created and promoted. But to say he never participated in real debate shows you haven't adequately found information outside your filter bubble. There are many examples like the one below https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-X0YD0tYTw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-X0YD0tYTw
- jrflowers 1y agoGood faith debate involves being careful with facts and —very importantly — not lying. The race baiting and conspiracy theories will be what Charlie Kirk is remembered for because that’s what he did constantly. There’s a whole section of his Wikipedia covering the falsehoods he spread about covid, election fraud, H1N1, human trafficking, protests in France etc. It’s a bit strange to say that I’m somehow uninformed because of my “filter bubble” seeing as in order to call Charlie Kirk’s performances legitimate debate you would either have to have never heard of his many, many outright lies or believe that it’s acceptable to make stuff up in a debate. (If the latter is the case we simply disagree on what constitutes a real debate) I’m familiar with his routine, which is why I described his performances as sometimes resembling legitimate debate. He was able to at times take (from your example) twelve minutes out of several hours of owning the libs to engage in a more mild performance, but that’s not the same thing as someone that has a genuinely good-faith interest in debate. That’s just taking a few minutes to make a marketing video for his podcast/speaking tours.
- duckdriver 1y agoVery nice "no true scotsman" fallacy. The summarized exchange between you and me: Y: "He was never involved in real debate" M: "Here's a real debate" Y: "ah, well, nevertheless"
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- tartuffe78 1y agoYou can't debate with someone who openly lies, and has a large following that accepts the lies.
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