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- pcj-github 1y agoIf this turns out to be real, a direct shot to the left carotid artery. Theoretically could be survivable but not without serious deficit and stroke. Agree likely fatal.
- tomrod 1y agoThe other indicators are pretty clearly a spinal shot. Extremely likely he is dead. I'm going to hug my family a little tighter tonight. 46th school shooting of the year, and the 47th also happening in Colorado.
- nicce 1y agoHe lost conscious immediately which is not explainable with blood loss alone that fast - which may indicate that there was a higher impact from the shot.
- FireBeyond 1y agoNot a physician, medical examiner, or the like. But a paramedic who has attended more than one fatality shooting. My educated wild ass guess is that hitting the neck with a high-velocity rifle would cause the shockwaves of the impact to be very, very close to the brainstem and to have a significant effect on it.
- Calavar 1y agoIt's not a case of losing blood, it's a case of failing to move blood to the right place. If the shot took out the carotid, then (nearly) 50% of the blood supply to his brain is gone because of a piping failure. That can absolutely cause instantaneous loss of consciousness, no direct brain trauma necessary. This is very different than bleeding from, say, a major artery in a leg. In that case the issue isn't loss of piping to the brain, it's losing blood until the total blood volume in the body isn't sufficient to maintain a workable blood pressure, and yes that can take multiple minutes before a person loses consciousness.
- nicce 1y agoYou can live with single carotid [1]. But maybe the change is too fast. It is exremely difficult to say without knowing more. 1: https://biologyinsights.com/can-you-live-with-one-carotid-artery/ https://biologyinsights.com/can-you-live-with-one-carotid-ar...
- Calavar 1y agoI am a physician, so I can say this with a high degree of confidence. That snippet is referring to the circle of Willis*, which is a "backup" circuit that can route around a blockage to the blood flow to the brain on one side. The thing is the circle of Willis is tiny and near vestigial (there is a substantial fraction of the population where it doesn't even make a full circuit), whereas the carotid is one of the largest blood vessels in the body. The circle of Willis isn't nearly large enough to reroute all that flow. It has to be made bigger over time through a process called collateralization, and that's a process that happens over months to years, not minutes or seconds. In short, the circle of Willis will save you from years of high cholesterol that lead to a huge cholesterol plaque completely blocking off one of your carotids. It won't save you from your carotid being severed by a bullet. *And some other tinier vessels, but mainly the circle of Willis
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- perihelions 1y agoHere's a mirror as that one has gotten moderated, (Very, very graphic death) https://x.com/_geopolitic_/status/1965851790714482943 https://x.com/_geopolitic_/status/1965851790714482943 (not safe for life / NSFL) [Graphic description] What kind of gun could that have been? Incredible amount of kinetic energy—you can actually see a hydraulic pressure wave oscillating through his entire chest. This was obviously fatal, if anyone wasn't sure. Probably died instantly, given the neurological "fencing" response (suggests spinal cord was hit—never mind the artery, he was already dead).
- bo-tao 1y agohttps://files.catbox.moe/nfffye.mp4 https://files.catbox.moe/nfffye.mp4
- hinkley 1y agoGo watch high speed footage of anyone shooting a gun at ballistic gel (ballistic gel is a material selected for having a similar density and fluid dynamics behavior to mammalian flesh.) A lot of the damage of a bullet is this concussive damage, not the piercing damage. Hollywood has been lying to you (apparently real gun experts hate the movie “shoulder shot” because there’s a lot of things to damage there, especially once you take the concussive force into consideration). For those who are on the fence, don’t watch it. I just did and I regret it. Suffice it to say that the blood loss alone will be critical condition at the very best.
- rossant 1y ago> Probably died instantly, given the neurological "fencing" response (suggests spinal cord was hit—never mind the artery, he was already dead). Could you expand on this? What does neurological "fencing" response mean, and what in the video indicates this is it?
- corey_moncure 1y agoDecorticate posturing of the hands
- perihelions 1y ago
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- jimt1234 1y agoWow! I should've heeded your NSFW warning. That was very disturbing.
- rossant 1y agoWell, he did die. Horrific. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/09/10/us/charlie-kirk-shot-utah https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/09/10/us/charlie-kirk-shot...
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- jader201 1y agoShould these even be shared? I mean, people are watching (I haven't) and wishing they hadn't.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y agoOthers are watching and expressing interest. I have similarly chosen not to watch the video, which is the responsible choice for me if I think I will find it disturbing (I probably will).
- nickthegreek 1y agoYes. People should have the choice to watch and understand what political violence. This is a powerful video and one that I don’t recommend everyone watch (that is a personal choice). If you are a person who has chosen to cheer on political violence, then I do suggest you watch. It’s is important to have a clear understanding of what that entails and the realities of that choice.
- jader201 1y agoFair points. I guess some level of uneasiness can be a good thing for some folks. But I also recognize it can possibly trigger anxiety (overwhelming, in some cases) for some folks, even if you don't realize that it might (until it's too late). Not suggesting we turn to censorship. But at the same time, I guess I'm mostly looking out for folks that may not be aware of the effects it could possibly have (e.g. naive and/or not taking warnings seriously enough).
- ibaikov 1y agoHe kicked back hard, so the shooter was using a powerful rifle, I suppose a sniper rifle. Wound is huge, not a pistol wound. He was shot in the neck because the shooter is amateur and didn't account for the bullet drop on this distance.
- lm28469 1y agoThis isn't call of duty, a basic hunting rifle will do the same holes as a "sniper rifle"
- ibaikov 1y agoI did not say it was something like an m82. I just wanted to say I believe it wasn't a pistol.
- lm28469 1y agoThere are handungs used for defense against brown bears, look at 10mm, or even 500 mag, 454 casull, you can shoot this from a handgun. It's very unlikely to be the case here but you wouldn't be able to tell just from the damages https://youtube.com/shorts/JluEbL5H48o https://youtube.com/shorts/JluEbL5H48o
- programjames 1y agoNote: the police do not have the suspect in custody. The comments about, "here's the assassin being arrested," are libel.
- kbelder 1y agoNot necessarily. They may have believed it to be true when they commented.
- programjames 1y agoNegligence is enough for libel against private citizens in the USA.
- Lammy 1y agoWPD post with a whole bunch of camera angles https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/shooting/post/379641/just-now-charlie-kirk-dead-in https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/shooting/post/379641/just-now-ch...