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France do protests and civil disobedience like no one else and I'm here for it.

bell-cot 1y ago
Pretty much. I've seen it attributed to the legacy of the WWII French Resistance ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Resistance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Resistance ) or the Paris Commune ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Commune https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Commune ) or the Flour War ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flour_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flour_War ). But there's a lot more, and it goes much further back - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_France https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unr... Perhaps France's ruling classes are especially inclined to ignore the concerns of the poor and working classes, and the latter often feel that forceful resistance is their only option?
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  France aggressively centralised its bureaucracy in the '89 Revolution. That may help disconnect Paris from its constituents more than in other systems.
  - vdupras 1y ago
    As Tocqueville writes in "De l'ancien régime et la révolution", centralization was already underway since Louis XIV, and heavily. Napoleon just picked up on it and continued the process.
googlryas 1y ago
Does it lead to obviously better results in quality of life compared to people who don't riot quite so frequently? Is the average londoner worse off than the average Parisian? What about the average British person vs the average French person? I just pick the UK because it is nearby, approximately the same population and same GDP
- ktallett 1y ago
  I feel they can make a change through protest and it feels like an inherent part of their life that they get to protest when the government or officials have made a change that isn't what the people want. Whether it makes a significant difference is hard to judge without living there. Likewise who knows what life would be like if they hadn't protested. They have great working rights though, and a less stressful life in that respect so that is a positive.
astrolx 1y ago
After a long day out that started early, I can tell you that our riot police has no budget issues!

Pretty much. I've seen it attributed to the legacy of the WWII French Resistance ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Resistance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Resistance ) or the Paris Commune ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Commune https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Commune ) or the Flour War ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flour_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flour_War ). But there's a lot more, and it goes much further back - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_France https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unr... Perhaps France's ruling classes are especially inclined to ignore the concerns of the poor and working classes, and the latter often feel that forceful resistance is their only option?

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
France aggressively centralised its bureaucracy in the '89 Revolution. That may help disconnect Paris from its constituents more than in other systems.
- vdupras 1y ago
  As Tocqueville writes in "De l'ancien régime et la révolution", centralization was already underway since Louis XIV, and heavily. Napoleon just picked up on it and continued the process.

googlryas 1y ago

Does it lead to obviously better results in quality of life compared to people who don't riot quite so frequently? Is the average londoner worse off than the average Parisian? What about the average British person vs the average French person? I just pick the UK because it is nearby, approximately the same population and same GDP

ktallett 1y ago
I feel they can make a change through protest and it feels like an inherent part of their life that they get to protest when the government or officials have made a change that isn't what the people want. Whether it makes a significant difference is hard to judge without living there. Likewise who knows what life would be like if they hadn't protested. They have great working rights though, and a less stressful life in that respect so that is a positive.

astrolx 1y ago

After a long day out that started early, I can tell you that our riot police has no budget issues!