> Palestine is not a country. Of course it is: "As of March 2025, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 147 of the 193 member states of

> Palestine is not a country. Of course it is: "As of March 2025, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 147 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 76% of all UN members" [0]. Yes, the world has decided that Palestine is a country, just like it did for israel, and the few countries that don't like it can sit and stew, because their feelings on the matter have been voiced, heard, and outvoted. Indeed, any argument that Palestine is not a country applies equally to israel, and disclaiming the existence of Palestine as a country is at least as vile as disclaiming the existence of israel as a country. What does israel call people who do that? > I dont think anyone deserves anything. Nihilism is a valid opinion to hold, but while I'm sure you're a good person, what any 1 person in the world thinks, is a fraction of a billionth as relevant as what the majority of countries think, and the latter is clearly codified in international law. In short, the debate of "does anyone deserve anything?" was already held, the side of "no" lost, and the world doesn't currently seem interested in israel's desire to re-debate the matter. > The question is, is it is moral for me to force israel to put up for terrorism That is a question, sure. An equal question that must be addressed simultaneously is, is it moral for us to force Palestine to put up with israel's terrorism? They are, after all, 2 co-equal countries with equal rights. > The holocaust had nothing to do with the nazis defending themselves. Likewise, israel's holocaust of innocent Palestininan civilians has nothing to do with protecting itself. The unconvincing claims of self-defense israel has made, exactly mirror the unconvincing claims of self-defense that nazi germany made: In both cases, the genociders have claimed their genocide is righteous because they are the chosen people; and their victims deserve it because they're lesser, they're not even people, they're "animals" (quoting both israel and nazi germany here); and certainly the chosen people must defend themselves from animals, and of course that means cleansing the land of the animals and availing themselves of their god-given right to rule over it in ethno-religious supremacy forever. That doesn't sound like "self-defense" to me. Never again means never again. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Palestine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_P...