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So, OP is right. Despite the Nextdoor-tier rant about panhandlers the demand for walkable cities is huge. So huge that the super rich will pay handsomely and pu

by rcpt 1y ago

So, OP is right. Despite the Nextdoor-tier rant about panhandlers the demand for walkable cities is huge. So huge that the super rich will pay handsomely and put up with panhandlers on top of it to live outside of car hell.

deltarholamda 1y ago
That's an amazingly reductive take on a complex issue, and it infers something which was not implied. At no point did I suggest that walkable cities were not in demand, only that the current state is less than ideal for a large number of people, to which your solution was "be rich".
- rcpt 1y ago
  No my point is that if OP were wrong then these places would be cheap.
FuriouslyAdrift 1y ago
At least one wealthy family in NYC I met doesn't use surface transport for much... they use helicopters or have things/people/shopping/restaurants brought to them. Had an experience where a store sent tailors, stylists, a manager, and a ton of inventory so that they could clothes shop while still in their home. Apparently, this was "normal". My shock was a source of great amusement to them. They did the same thing with restaurants, movies, concerts, even a play... the staff, etc. came to them. I have no idea just how wealthy they were (Brazilian who owned many businesses in oil and gas production) but I had never seen (or even heard of) such service.
- woodruffw 1y ago
  I don’t think your wealthy acquaintances are representative. I’ve lived in NYC my entire life, and I know plenty of wealthy people. Most take the subway; a small but not insignificant minority drive or are driven everywhere.
  - dullcrisp 1y ago
    You mean the skies aren’t filled with everyone riding helicopters?
    - Nevermark 1y ago
      The skies are so filled with copters that you can walk from building to building on their blades.
  - FuriouslyAdrift 1y ago
    I think we're talking about the difference between millionaires and billionaires (they are definitely billionaires).
- II2II 1y ago
  This sounds more like and impoverished life than a wealthy one. (Clearly I am referring to the life experience, rather than how much money they have and how they spend it.)

by rcpt 1y ago

deltarholamda 1y ago

That's an amazingly reductive take on a complex issue, and it infers something which was not implied. At no point did I suggest that walkable cities were not in demand, only that the current state is less than ideal for a large number of people, to which your solution was "be rich".

rcpt 1y ago
No my point is that if OP were wrong then these places would be cheap.

FuriouslyAdrift 1y ago

At least one wealthy family in NYC I met doesn't use surface transport for much... they use helicopters or have things/people/shopping/restaurants brought to them. Had an experience where a store sent tailors, stylists, a manager, and a ton of inventory so that they could clothes shop while still in their home. Apparently, this was "normal". My shock was a source of great amusement to them. They did the same thing with restaurants, movies, concerts, even a play... the staff, etc. came to them. I have no idea just how wealthy they were (Brazilian who owned many businesses in oil and gas production) but I had never seen (or even heard of) such service.

woodruffw 1y ago
I don’t think your wealthy acquaintances are representative. I’ve lived in NYC my entire life, and I know plenty of wealthy people. Most take the subway; a small but not insignificant minority drive or are driven everywhere.
- dullcrisp 1y ago
  You mean the skies aren’t filled with everyone riding helicopters?
  - Nevermark 1y ago
    The skies are so filled with copters that you can walk from building to building on their blades.
- FuriouslyAdrift 1y ago
  I think we're talking about the difference between millionaires and billionaires (they are definitely billionaires).
II2II 1y ago
This sounds more like and impoverished life than a wealthy one. (Clearly I am referring to the life experience, rather than how much money they have and how they spend it.)