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I am both unsurprised and extremely disappointed with the amount of people saying "good, they shouldn't be living there". Good luck telling that to the family

I am both unsurprised and extremely disappointed with the amount of people saying "good, they shouldn't be living there". Good luck telling that to the family trying to live close to their support network, or the old woman who has to sell her home to go into care, only to find her house is now worth so little she's a couple hundred K in debt.

ponector 1y ago
Risk increased, should family live there and be killed with higher probability?
HDThoreaun 1y ago
Yes it is hard to move, but this logic never leads to the problem being fixed. Eventually these people will need to move, now is as good a time as any.
- AllegedAlec 1y ago
  I'm not saying that it wouldn't be better to move them, but you can't just say "fuck you, fuck your family, fuck your parents. You are going to have to move but you cannot sell the pile of bricks for shit and you'll have to take the hit because we can't be arsed to care for our people"
  - nemomarx 1y ago
    If you can get an administration in the state who cares about people and wants to help them move without ruining their lives, I'll donate some money to that effort. Or even to a political campaign trying for it. Best of luck getting a better party in office.
  - HDThoreaun 1y ago
    Yes I can. They chose to buy a house there, this was a risk.
    - AllegedAlec 1y ago
      I mean, you totally can. That just makes you a trash person.
tossandthrow 1y ago
That family that themselves dicided to buy an asset that would hopefully appreciate? We celebrate people taking home gains on their houses - as such we also happily accept people loosing on their investments. That is the game.
- AllegedAlec 1y ago
  Ok, if that's what you believe sure. Just be honest about that you don't care about economically killing a couple million people instead of hiding behind "but they bought their house as an investment" when you don't even know if that's why they did that.
  - tossandthrow 1y ago
    I believe in balance. What would you propose instead? That the government should put a ceiling on Florida house prices? You can equally believe what you want - though that will not stop a hurricane.
    - AllegedAlec 1y ago
      A way to rehouse people that doesn't a generational destitution. How/what/where: I don't know.
      - tossandthrow 1y ago
        The US has over the past ~40 made a system that celebrates big time winners, both of stocks, housing, etc. There are no big time winners without big time losers. What you are discovering now are fundamental consequences of inequality. It is not just for housing, but for all aspects of the society. Either we celebrate the winners in an in-equal society, or we instantiate an equal society. You can't have your cake and eat it too - neither can the losers of the Florida housing market.
        AllegedAlec 1y ago

ponector 1y ago

Risk increased, should family live there and be killed with higher probability?

HDThoreaun 1y ago

Yes it is hard to move, but this logic never leads to the problem being fixed. Eventually these people will need to move, now is as good a time as any.

AllegedAlec 1y ago
I'm not saying that it wouldn't be better to move them, but you can't just say "fuck you, fuck your family, fuck your parents. You are going to have to move but you cannot sell the pile of bricks for shit and you'll have to take the hit because we can't be arsed to care for our people"
- nemomarx 1y ago
  If you can get an administration in the state who cares about people and wants to help them move without ruining their lives, I'll donate some money to that effort. Or even to a political campaign trying for it. Best of luck getting a better party in office.
- HDThoreaun 1y ago
  Yes I can. They chose to buy a house there, this was a risk.
  - AllegedAlec 1y ago
    I mean, you totally can. That just makes you a trash person.

tossandthrow 1y ago

That family that themselves dicided to buy an asset that would hopefully appreciate? We celebrate people taking home gains on their houses - as such we also happily accept people loosing on their investments. That is the game.

AllegedAlec 1y ago
Ok, if that's what you believe sure. Just be honest about that you don't care about economically killing a couple million people instead of hiding behind "but they bought their house as an investment" when you don't even know if that's why they did that.
- tossandthrow 1y ago
  I believe in balance. What would you propose instead? That the government should put a ceiling on Florida house prices? You can equally believe what you want - though that will not stop a hurricane.
  - AllegedAlec 1y ago
    A way to rehouse people that doesn't a generational destitution. How/what/where: I don't know.
    - tossandthrow 1y ago
      The US has over the past ~40 made a system that celebrates big time winners, both of stocks, housing, etc. There are no big time winners without big time losers. What you are discovering now are fundamental consequences of inequality. It is not just for housing, but for all aspects of the society. Either we celebrate the winners in an in-equal society, or we instantiate an equal society. You can't have your cake and eat it too - neither can the losers of the Florida housing market.
      - AllegedAlec 1y ago