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> Exactly. Cars are a better experience in almost all cases, I completely disagree. On a train or bus I can stand up and stretch my legs, I'm not cramped into

> Exactly. Cars are a better experience in almost all cases, I completely disagree. On a train or bus I can stand up and stretch my legs, I'm not cramped into a single valid sitting position. I don't get motion sickness on trains or busses like I do in cars, and don't feel claustrophobic. Also in cars I'm constantly stuck in traffic and can't do anything, whereas a bus or train no matter what's happening I can just read a book or people watch or whatever.

pjmlp 1y ago
In many S and RE trains in Germany you do get to strecht a lot, assuming you manage to get into the wagon.
yourusername 1y ago
>I'm not cramped into a single valid sitting position. No during rush hour you're more likely to be cramped into a single valid standing position.
- komali2 1y ago
  This isn't my experience, but I understand some countries have overloaded public transit systems. When I've been in those countries, it's been simple enough to just let an overloaded train pass and grab the next one.
  - yourusername 1y ago
    Ok but you let that train pass you might lose the connection to the bus at the other end. Or the next train or bus might not be for half an hour. Now you're late to wherever you were going.
    - komali2 1y ago
      Right, so, again, it sounds like your public transit is underfunded or something. Where I live I can depend on there being another train within 8 minutes no matter where I'm going, or a bus, or I can just hop on a ubike and I can be confident there'll be a space and station within a couple hundred meters. I sympathize with people that aren't so lucky, but, if Taipei can figure it out, there's really no excuse elsewhere. Good public transit really is the only viable way to move people. The private car is, objectively, the worst.
  - int_19h 1y ago
    During the rush hour, the next train is going to be just as packed. And if you wait long enough for things to quiet down, you're not going to be at work on time.
    - komali2 1y ago
      This doesn't happen to me where I live. It's time to increase your city's transportation budget!

pjmlp 1y ago

In many S and RE trains in Germany you do get to strecht a lot, assuming you manage to get into the wagon.

yourusername 1y ago

>I'm not cramped into a single valid sitting position. No during rush hour you're more likely to be cramped into a single valid standing position.

komali2 1y ago
This isn't my experience, but I understand some countries have overloaded public transit systems. When I've been in those countries, it's been simple enough to just let an overloaded train pass and grab the next one.
- yourusername 1y ago
  Ok but you let that train pass you might lose the connection to the bus at the other end. Or the next train or bus might not be for half an hour. Now you're late to wherever you were going.
  - komali2 1y ago
    Right, so, again, it sounds like your public transit is underfunded or something. Where I live I can depend on there being another train within 8 minutes no matter where I'm going, or a bus, or I can just hop on a ubike and I can be confident there'll be a space and station within a couple hundred meters. I sympathize with people that aren't so lucky, but, if Taipei can figure it out, there's really no excuse elsewhere. Good public transit really is the only viable way to move people. The private car is, objectively, the worst.
- int_19h 1y ago
  During the rush hour, the next train is going to be just as packed. And if you wait long enough for things to quiet down, you're not going to be at work on time.
  - komali2 1y ago
    This doesn't happen to me where I live. It's time to increase your city's transportation budget!