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kinda mad guillotine got rejected, it concisely expresses a very popular sentiment

by Palomides 1y ago

harwoodr 1y ago
I'm more disappointed that "Dumpster Fire" hasn't made the grade four times.
- jowea 1y ago
  Would controversial emojis even get widespread support? Look at what happened to gun emoji.
  - throw0101d 1y ago
    "Dumpster fire" is a idiomatic phrase in English/US, so may not be universal enough. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_fire
    - harwoodr 1y ago
      I'm not an American... but "bin fire" seems to be a thing too.
  - account42 1y ago
    Which is really the root problem with emojis: they're a top down definition of what concepts you are allowed to communicate.
    - squigz 1y ago
      If you're only allowed to communicate in emojis, I guess? Other than that I'm not sure what bearing emojis have on what I'm allowed to talk about.
bell-cot 1y ago
"Gun", "knife", and a fair number other emoji's are nerfed. Perhaps too much for many HNers. But not nearly enough for anyone who's had a stalker.
- account42 1y ago
  Ah yes, because outlawing wrongspeak prevents people from communicating those concepts. People like you are giant eggplant emojis.
  - bell-cot 1y ago
    Preventing people from "communicating those concepts" is your strawman, not the goal of the Unicode org. Regardless of whatever lip service they might give to "This little thing, plus Santa's naughty list, will magically make all the children nice" fantasies. They are a big org, doing normal big org things, and trying to dodge the Bad PR spotlight. But glancing at your karma - are you contributing to a platform (HN) which outlaws wrongspeak, when you should start truly living your values?
    - account42 1y ago
      In the spirit of the discussion I'll respond in image form: https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/mister-gotcha-4-9faefa-1.jpg https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/mister-gotcha-... Perhaps Unicode should also include an emoji for this concept.
- shmeeed 1y ago
  Do you assume that a stalker would be deterred by the lack of a knife emoji? I can't seem to follow the logic here.
carrozo 1y ago
oh that was me who wrote the proposal for it. https://www.carrozo.com/guillotine-emoji https://www.carrozo.com/guillotine-emoji
- Palomides 1y ago
  thank you for trying!

kinda mad guillotine got rejected, it concisely expresses a very popular sentiment

harwoodr 1y ago

I'm more disappointed that "Dumpster Fire" hasn't made the grade four times.

jowea 1y ago
Would controversial emojis even get widespread support? Look at what happened to gun emoji.
- throw0101d 1y ago
  "Dumpster fire" is a idiomatic phrase in English/US, so may not be universal enough. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_fire
  - harwoodr 1y ago
    I'm not an American... but "bin fire" seems to be a thing too.
- account42 1y ago
  Which is really the root problem with emojis: they're a top down definition of what concepts you are allowed to communicate.
  - squigz 1y ago
    If you're only allowed to communicate in emojis, I guess? Other than that I'm not sure what bearing emojis have on what I'm allowed to talk about.

bell-cot 1y ago

"Gun", "knife", and a fair number other emoji's are nerfed. Perhaps too much for many HNers. But not nearly enough for anyone who's had a stalker.

account42 1y ago
Ah yes, because outlawing wrongspeak prevents people from communicating those concepts. People like you are giant eggplant emojis.
- bell-cot 1y ago
  Preventing people from "communicating those concepts" is your strawman, not the goal of the Unicode org. Regardless of whatever lip service they might give to "This little thing, plus Santa's naughty list, will magically make all the children nice" fantasies. They are a big org, doing normal big org things, and trying to dodge the Bad PR spotlight. But glancing at your karma - are you contributing to a platform (HN) which outlaws wrongspeak, when you should start truly living your values?
  - account42 1y ago
    In the spirit of the discussion I'll respond in image form: https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/mister-gotcha-4-9faefa-1.jpg https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/mister-gotcha-... Perhaps Unicode should also include an emoji for this concept.
shmeeed 1y ago
Do you assume that a stalker would be deterred by the lack of a knife emoji? I can't seem to follow the logic here.

carrozo 1y ago

oh that was me who wrote the proposal for it. https://www.carrozo.com/guillotine-emoji https://www.carrozo.com/guillotine-emoji

Palomides 1y ago
thank you for trying!