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The fact that many were wearing hard hats and hi-vis vests in the photos of the raid seems relevant right? They raided a construction site, not an office build
by CPLX 1y ago
The fact that many were wearing hard hats and hi-vis vests in the photos of the raid seems relevant right?
They raided a construction site, not an office building. What do you think they were doing there?
- pavlov 1y agoAn architect would wear a hard hat and vest to a construction site. Does that make them a construction worker?
- CPLX 1y agoYes of course. An architect is a well established job on any large scale construction project. Do you think all construction workers are unskilled laborers? If they were practicing architecture in the US without proper work visas it would be illegal.
- pavlov 1y agoOk, you’re saying that a Korean architect working for Hyundai isn’t allowed to visit a Hyundai work site on ESTA or B-1. What kind of visa do they need to get? Please be very specific. I’ve had L-1 and O-1 visas to the US in the past. Those were complicated processes that took many months and cost over $10k in legal fees each time. Those visas are explicitly meant for multi-year stays, not just work site visits. But is that the type of visa the architect should get for this business trip? If not, then what?
- CPLX 1y agoA Korean architect might well be allowed to come for meetings or to supervise on a B-1. They might not, depending on what they actually do. The laws are written out and there's lots of precedent. The point I'm making is if there's 300 people with hard hats and hi-vis vests that say "mechanic" on them (to name one example I saw in a video of the raid) there's a pretty reasonable chance they're very clearly on the wrong side of visa law.
- viraptor 1y agoYou can't typically enter a construction site without a hardhat and hi-vis. Even as a visitor. And even if you can, you may not want to for your own safety. What they were wearing says absolutely nothing about their work.
- CPLX 1y agoI mean it says something about their work. It says they were in an active construction site. What do you think they were doing there? Having a 300+ person “business meeting”?
- viraptor 1y agoPeople who were having a meeting at my home construction site: architect, builders' reception staff, inspectors, interior person, electrician's staff, garden designer, etc. and that's just for a simple house. There's going to be so many more options for a factory.
- CPLX 1y agoYeah if those people weren't authorized to work in the United States, and they did any work at all (rather than strictly doing only "meetings" and then leaving the country again) that would be illegal. This isn't all that complicated.
- viraptor 1y agoAs you say, it's an "if". There was no testimony so far. For now we don't know what they did there. I'm just pointing out that no, the photos really do not say much about their work.
- CPLX 1y agoWe'll have to agree to disagree on that. If there are hundreds of people dressed like construction workers at a plant, it's reasonable to think there's a good chance they're doing construction work. If they are it's illegal.