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Anything, anything to avoid the elephant in the room...

Bender 1y ago
Indeed. Anti-depressants, SSRI's, Anti-Psychotics used off-label, extremely unhealthy addictive foods, social media via cell phones, left vs right media wars for attention and clicks, not teaching kids how to deal with bullies and not fully supporting kids defending themselves, experimenting on kids with hormones and now AI. The kids have a massive burden on their shoulders and a monkey on their back.
- southwindcg 1y ago
  Not supporting bullied kids is huge. I'm almost surprised the shootings don't happen more often, since a child being bullied and not receiving any help from the people entrusted to protect them must feel utterly helpless.
  - Bender 1y ago
    must feel utterly helpless Absolutely. Damned if they defend themselves and damned if they do not. More parents need to take legal action against schools, school boards, counties, states, insurance companies that cover schools and individual administrative staff. Where that fails, they should pull their kids out of the school and move to places with better statistics on violent crime in the schools if that is an option. Voting with tax moneys and rewarding the states / counties that are not failing to empower and protect kids.
- yencabulator 1y ago
  That's still a lot of words without mentioning the actual elephant.
  - Bender 1y ago
    Here are some more words. If you are referring to the tools used to commit vicious acts, they are just that ... tools. Knives, guns, poisons, bombs, arrows, baseball bats, brass knuckles, shanks, broken bottles, scissors, ice picks, automatic crossbows, number 2 pencils. Just recently a Ukranian refugee was slashed to death on a transit system. [1] The person committing this horific act had been recently arrested and released many times and was well known to have serious mental health issues and had attacked many others including their sister. Mentally unhealthy people will do harm. This individual should have been in an asylum or a SHU. The tool they use is just the method but the harm still happens. Give a crazy person a spoon they can take out several people on a subway. If anyone defends themselves or others we know that the defender in some states will be arrested and jailed which is disgusting. I can have a firearm on a bus, in a bank, grocery store, gas station and nobody bats an eye because they know I am stable and most people here are armed. If anything people around me will feel more confortable knowing there will not be any soft targets. The only two places I am not allowed to carry my firearm are schools there are exceptions around this and bars. I don't go into bars anyway. This varies by state. [2] People should leave and defund those dangerous states that disallow protecting ones self, their family and others. If I was unstable and acting out whatever is left of me would be put away or down for good and I support this. This is the elephant that many will not talk about or even admit. John Stewart had a pretty good take on this. [3] [1] - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgknxyl77x6o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgknxyl77x6o [2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry [3] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6KZY4msgUY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6KZY4msgUY [video][8 mins]
    - yencabulator 1y ago
      I've never heard of a mass spooning.
      - Bender 1y ago
        I've never heard of a mass spooning. That's how babies are made. But seriously, the definition of mass shooting is moot at this point. When a person is murdered by an unstable every day I count that as "mass" even if the murderer is by themselves. There are just so many of them the end result are masses even if the actors are distributed. It's more like a mass invasion of unstables at this point. One never knows if the person next to them is going to pop off. There are now so many incidents of kids taking out one or two other kids that it is endemic at this point even if that is not big enough number to technically count as "mass" shooting, stabbing, slashing, etc... The real question is when are we going to address all the mental health issues. When are we going to start enforcing laws on people with a history of domestic abuse...
potsandpans 1y ago
What's the elephant in the room?
- jdiff 1y ago
  I'm sure there's multiple depending on what angle you want to take. Historically, it's been "USA is not the only developed country that has had this problem, but it is the only one that hasn't solved it." Maybe with a dash of "Guns are the number one cause of death for children."
- righthand 1y ago
  Gun control.
  - chimineycricket 1y ago
    Obviously this would help immensely, but this wasn't happening in the 90s when kids would bring guns to school for show and tell. Whatever changed, the better solution is to reverse that. What do you think?
    - righthand 1y ago
      How do you reverse the Columbine massacre?
      - Ancapistani 1y ago
        I must point out that Columbine was in 1999 - almost exactly midway through the 1994 "assault weapons ban".
        righthand 1y ago
        Every shooting creates more terrified people wanting more security.
      - chimineycricket 1y ago

Indeed. Anti-depressants, SSRI's, Anti-Psychotics used off-label, extremely unhealthy addictive foods, social media via cell phones, left vs right media wars for attention and clicks, not teaching kids how to deal with bullies and not fully supporting kids defending themselves, experimenting on kids with hormones and now AI. The kids have a massive burden on their shoulders and a monkey on their back.

southwindcg 1y ago
Not supporting bullied kids is huge. I'm almost surprised the shootings don't happen more often, since a child being bullied and not receiving any help from the people entrusted to protect them must feel utterly helpless.
- Bender 1y ago
  must feel utterly helpless Absolutely. Damned if they defend themselves and damned if they do not. More parents need to take legal action against schools, school boards, counties, states, insurance companies that cover schools and individual administrative staff. Where that fails, they should pull their kids out of the school and move to places with better statistics on violent crime in the schools if that is an option. Voting with tax moneys and rewarding the states / counties that are not failing to empower and protect kids.
yencabulator 1y ago
That's still a lot of words without mentioning the actual elephant.
- Bender 1y ago
  Here are some more words. If you are referring to the tools used to commit vicious acts, they are just that ... tools. Knives, guns, poisons, bombs, arrows, baseball bats, brass knuckles, shanks, broken bottles, scissors, ice picks, automatic crossbows, number 2 pencils. Just recently a Ukranian refugee was slashed to death on a transit system. [1] The person committing this horific act had been recently arrested and released many times and was well known to have serious mental health issues and had attacked many others including their sister. Mentally unhealthy people will do harm. This individual should have been in an asylum or a SHU. The tool they use is just the method but the harm still happens. Give a crazy person a spoon they can take out several people on a subway. If anyone defends themselves or others we know that the defender in some states will be arrested and jailed which is disgusting. I can have a firearm on a bus, in a bank, grocery store, gas station and nobody bats an eye because they know I am stable and most people here are armed. If anything people around me will feel more confortable knowing there will not be any soft targets. The only two places I am not allowed to carry my firearm are schools there are exceptions around this and bars. I don't go into bars anyway. This varies by state. [2] People should leave and defund those dangerous states that disallow protecting ones self, their family and others. If I was unstable and acting out whatever is left of me would be put away or down for good and I support this. This is the elephant that many will not talk about or even admit. John Stewart had a pretty good take on this. [3] [1] - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgknxyl77x6o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgknxyl77x6o [2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry [3] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6KZY4msgUY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6KZY4msgUY [video][8 mins]
  - yencabulator 1y ago
    I've never heard of a mass spooning.
    - Bender 1y ago
      I've never heard of a mass spooning. That's how babies are made. But seriously, the definition of mass shooting is moot at this point. When a person is murdered by an unstable every day I count that as "mass" even if the murderer is by themselves. There are just so many of them the end result are masses even if the actors are distributed. It's more like a mass invasion of unstables at this point. One never knows if the person next to them is going to pop off. There are now so many incidents of kids taking out one or two other kids that it is endemic at this point even if that is not big enough number to technically count as "mass" shooting, stabbing, slashing, etc... The real question is when are we going to address all the mental health issues. When are we going to start enforcing laws on people with a history of domestic abuse...

potsandpans 1y ago

What's the elephant in the room?

jdiff 1y ago
I'm sure there's multiple depending on what angle you want to take. Historically, it's been "USA is not the only developed country that has had this problem, but it is the only one that hasn't solved it." Maybe with a dash of "Guns are the number one cause of death for children."
righthand 1y ago
Gun control.
- chimineycricket 1y ago
  Obviously this would help immensely, but this wasn't happening in the 90s when kids would bring guns to school for show and tell. Whatever changed, the better solution is to reverse that. What do you think?
  - righthand 1y ago
    How do you reverse the Columbine massacre?
    - Ancapistani 1y ago
      I must point out that Columbine was in 1999 - almost exactly midway through the 1994 "assault weapons ban".
      - righthand 1y ago
        Every shooting creates more terrified people wanting more security.
    - chimineycricket 1y ago