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I don't know it's constantly kicking youtubers I subscribe to off the site, and removing videos. It would be nice if it were more censorship resistant

simianwords 1y ago
It’s an extremely hard problem to solve unfortunately. The political tides keep shifting. One day it’s unthinkable to non censor a gender critical video. Another day it is okay. The YouTube management has to be adaptive enough to work in the small window that society allows at that time.
- infamia 1y ago
  It isn't society they're kicking people off of YouTube for, it's whatever their advertisers do or don't want at any given moment. The advertising companies are their customers, and everyone else is just grist for the mill.
  - simianwords 1y ago
    What advertisers want is downstream from society
    - immibis 1y ago
      Downstream from rich society FWIW. They aren't changing ads to cater to people without money.
- account42 1y ago
  YouTube censors a lot more than it is legally required to.
pezezin 1y ago
I am subscribed to more than 70 YouTube channels, and I have never seen any of them getting kicked out, and the only videos that get removed are due to some bullshit music copyright claims. If you see Youtubers getting kicked out constantly you might be subscribing to some weird stuff...
- beeflet 1y ago
  I am subscribed to ~270 channels through newpipe and I get "failed to fetch subscription" like maybe once a month only to see the channel is dead (usually temporarily). If you are just using youtube's app directly you won't notice when they get delisted. I just scrolled through my subscriptions and it's mostly music, comedy, gaming, entertainment, and science channels. I always assume it is for DMCA or for saying curse words. Every once and a while it will be because they said something politically incorrect or used the wrong chemicals or showed a gun or something. I think that pretty much anything except for porn and gore should be allowed. I am just scrolling and I think that this video is a good example of a vid that only lasts about a month on the site, even though it should be allowed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1B_EdVnKFg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1B_EdVnKFg It has "guns", it has "drugs", it has political figures, and it has minecraft so therefore it must qualify as a children's video. This channel is basically a magnet for getting wrongfully demonetized and banned by AI or some guy working in an indian call center. But 12 years ago this would be a normal video. Another example I can think of is "youtube poops" which are unconventional mashups of copyrighted content. They constantly get taken down and need to be reuploaded: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwgPraTb_64 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwgPraTb_64
  - pezezin 1y ago
    I wonder about the influence of the language. I regularly watch videos in English, Spanish (my mother language), and Japanese (my girlfriend's language). English-speaking channels are usually more "polite" in the way they speak, while Spanish-speaking channels are way crazier, using expressions that no American would dare to use xD Regarding Japanese, I don't understand enough to have a judgement, but Japanese people are usually very careful and non-confrontational.
- eimrine 1y ago
  70 channels is nothing, I add to my subscription list 700 channels per each year and listen to Youtube no less than 5 hours daily. Your weird stuff statement seems like victim-shaming.
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simianwords 1y ago

It’s an extremely hard problem to solve unfortunately. The political tides keep shifting. One day it’s unthinkable to non censor a gender critical video. Another day it is okay. The YouTube management has to be adaptive enough to work in the small window that society allows at that time.

infamia 1y ago
It isn't society they're kicking people off of YouTube for, it's whatever their advertisers do or don't want at any given moment. The advertising companies are their customers, and everyone else is just grist for the mill.
- simianwords 1y ago
  What advertisers want is downstream from society
  - immibis 1y ago
    Downstream from rich society FWIW. They aren't changing ads to cater to people without money.
account42 1y ago
YouTube censors a lot more than it is legally required to.

pezezin 1y ago

I am subscribed to more than 70 YouTube channels, and I have never seen any of them getting kicked out, and the only videos that get removed are due to some bullshit music copyright claims. If you see Youtubers getting kicked out constantly you might be subscribing to some weird stuff...

beeflet 1y ago
I am subscribed to ~270 channels through newpipe and I get "failed to fetch subscription" like maybe once a month only to see the channel is dead (usually temporarily). If you are just using youtube's app directly you won't notice when they get delisted. I just scrolled through my subscriptions and it's mostly music, comedy, gaming, entertainment, and science channels. I always assume it is for DMCA or for saying curse words. Every once and a while it will be because they said something politically incorrect or used the wrong chemicals or showed a gun or something. I think that pretty much anything except for porn and gore should be allowed. I am just scrolling and I think that this video is a good example of a vid that only lasts about a month on the site, even though it should be allowed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1B_EdVnKFg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1B_EdVnKFg It has "guns", it has "drugs", it has political figures, and it has minecraft so therefore it must qualify as a children's video. This channel is basically a magnet for getting wrongfully demonetized and banned by AI or some guy working in an indian call center. But 12 years ago this would be a normal video. Another example I can think of is "youtube poops" which are unconventional mashups of copyrighted content. They constantly get taken down and need to be reuploaded: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwgPraTb_64 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwgPraTb_64
- pezezin 1y ago
  I wonder about the influence of the language. I regularly watch videos in English, Spanish (my mother language), and Japanese (my girlfriend's language). English-speaking channels are usually more "polite" in the way they speak, while Spanish-speaking channels are way crazier, using expressions that no American would dare to use xD Regarding Japanese, I don't understand enough to have a judgement, but Japanese people are usually very careful and non-confrontational.
eimrine 1y ago
70 channels is nothing, I add to my subscription list 700 channels per each year and listen to Youtube no less than 5 hours daily. Your weird stuff statement seems like victim-shaming.
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