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I’ve recently test-driven EVs from a few brands, including Tesla. One stood out for building an EV that actually felt like a functioning car: Kia. It actually

by amluto 1y ago

I’ve recently test-driven EVs from a few brands, including Tesla. One stood out for building an EV that actually felt like a functioning car: Kia. It actually has buttons for things that are commonly adjusted while driving. The current crop of Teslas don’t even have physical controls for reverse.

rsynnott 1y ago
> The current crop of Teslas don’t even have physical controls for reverse. ... Wait, seriously? Like, you have to _use the touch screen to put it in reverse_? That can't possibly be the case.
- amluto 1y ago
  Yes. This has now infected all models.
  - Kirby64 1y ago
    No, it’s not. There are buttons on the roof area (where the interior lights and hazard button are) that have the PRND buttons. Also, all the new models have an auto shift functionality so you don’t even really have to use any buttons at all.
    - amluto 1y ago
      > Also, all the new models have an auto shift functionality so you don’t even really have to use any buttons at all. This seems utterly insane. It’s already annoying that tapping somewhere on a phone screen has a different effect depending on whether I win or lose the race against some UI update. I do not want my rather heavy vehicle to move in a different direction depending on which way the computer thinks I want it to move.
      - Kirby64 1y ago
        You don't have to use it if you don't want to. You can turn it off and just use the headliner buttons only. Also, the vehicle is not moving when you don't want it to. The brake and accelerator pedals still function and it should be abundantly obvious if it's in reverse vs. drive, given the backup camera is on vs. off. In practice, everything I've seen is that it works well, and predictably does what you expect it to do. And if it doesn't, you are one swipe away from fixing that.
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I’ve recently test-driven EVs from a few brands, including Tesla. One stood out for building an EV that actually felt like a functioning car: Kia. It actually

by amluto 1y ago

rsynnott 1y ago
> The current crop of Teslas don’t even have physical controls for reverse. ... Wait, seriously? Like, you have to _use the touch screen to put it in reverse_? That can't possibly be the case.
- amluto 1y ago
  Yes. This has now infected all models.
  - Kirby64 1y ago
    No, it’s not. There are buttons on the roof area (where the interior lights and hazard button are) that have the PRND buttons. Also, all the new models have an auto shift functionality so you don’t even really have to use any buttons at all.
    - amluto 1y ago
      > Also, all the new models have an auto shift functionality so you don’t even really have to use any buttons at all. This seems utterly insane. It’s already annoying that tapping somewhere on a phone screen has a different effect depending on whether I win or lose the race against some UI update. I do not want my rather heavy vehicle to move in a different direction depending on which way the computer thinks I want it to move.
      - Kirby64 1y ago
        You don't have to use it if you don't want to. You can turn it off and just use the headliner buttons only. Also, the vehicle is not moving when you don't want it to. The brake and accelerator pedals still function and it should be abundantly obvious if it's in reverse vs. drive, given the backup camera is on vs. off. In practice, everything I've seen is that it works well, and predictably does what you expect it to do. And if it doesn't, you are one swipe away from fixing that.
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