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Cute article but skong isn’t as hard as op makes it out to be. I wonder if he’s played any soulsborne games or even hollow knight. Git gud!!!

by par 1y ago

kittoes 1y ago
Don't so easily dismiss the opinions of others. For certain individuals it is indeed the hardest game they've ever played. I've cleared Steelsoul 100% in the OG Hollow Knight and would argue that Silksong is definitely the more difficult of the two.
theahura 1y ago
Played all the soulsborne and 100%-ed HK. Except the last pantheon, I couldn't ever beat ascended moth
MikeTheGreat 1y ago
Ok, this is as close as I'm ever gonna get to having a real reason to post this on HN, so here goes: "Git Gud" by Viva La Dirt League: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blSXTZ3Nihs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blSXTZ3Nihs
- par 1y ago
  Praise the sun!
M4v3R 1y ago
Silksong is objectively hard, and if you're trying to argue otherwise you're either the mythical "god gamer" or just trolling. The game is unapologetically hard and punishing right from the beginning. The very second boss you encounter already hits you for 2 masks (which effectively means 3 hits and you're dead), and each time you try to fight him you first have to run back for a minute before you reach him. He even does 2 masks of contact damage. Heck, even some normal enemies you encounter in the first two hours deal 2 damage. The original Hollow Knight bosses didn't do 2 masks damage until half way through the game. Don't get me wrong, I still love the game and consider it pretty much a masterpiece, but many people believe (myself included) the game could have a better difficulty curve from the beginning and be less punishing (just give me a freaking bench before each boss so I don't have to run through 10 screens to have another try at it) while still maintaining the overall difficulty and challenge.
- Gander5739 1y ago
  The very first boss in Hollow Knight, False Knight, does two masks of damage.
  - M4v3R 1y ago
    No, he doesn’t. Check for yourself at around 30:30 min mark: https://youtu.be/JNdJ5ozN8cU?feature=shared https://youtu.be/JNdJ5ozN8cU?feature=shared
  - oneeyedpigeon 1y ago
    You're probably thinking of Failed Champion, the Dream variant.
- Levitz 1y ago
  It Is hard, sure. But this: "Silksong as a game should not exist. It is so brutally difficult that it stretches the very definition of the word "game"" is an immense exaggeration, I could understand this for, maybe, IWBTG.
- japhib 1y ago
  But you can heal 3 masks of damage in about the same amount of time it takes to heal 1 mask in HK ...
- par 1y ago
  "The game is unapologetically hard and punishing right from the beginning." -- sorry i just dont agree with that. Mosshome is really basic. My 11 year old kid is already in citadel. Yes the game is hard but i think the community is forgetting how hard the original HK was, not to mention when Dark Souls came out it was notorious! But yes I agree silksong has its moments. Moorwing made me feel at a complete loss for a while, first time i've felt that since I was fighting Ornstein and Smough in DS1. Last Judge was also pretty difficult but felt balanced and learnable. I guess more than anything it's just been cool to see the community come together on silksong.
- butlike 1y ago
  It's also obscene in this day and age I can't upgrade my weapon to out damage the boss if I feel I need to. One of my pet peeves is having game designers feel like their design supersedes how I want to play. If I absolutely do not want to play a boss; for whatever reason, I should be allowed to find an alternative way to get through that area. If grinding endlessly for damage is the alternative, fine. But at least there is one.
whatevaa 1y ago
Elden Ring is easier than Silksong. Summons are easy mode.
- par 1y ago
  i dont know about that, elden ring has some extremely difficult moments.

Cute article but skong isn’t as hard as op makes it out to be. I wonder if he’s played any soulsborne games or even hollow knight. Git gud!!!

by par 1y ago

Cute article but skong isn’t as hard as op makes it out to be. I wonder if he’s played any soulsborne games or even hollow knight. Git gud!!!

kittoes 1y ago

Don't so easily dismiss the opinions of others. For certain individuals it is indeed the hardest game they've ever played. I've cleared Steelsoul 100% in the OG Hollow Knight and would argue that Silksong is definitely the more difficult of the two.

theahura 1y ago

Played all the soulsborne and 100%-ed HK. Except the last pantheon, I couldn't ever beat ascended moth

MikeTheGreat 1y ago

Ok, this is as close as I'm ever gonna get to having a real reason to post this on HN, so here goes: "Git Gud" by Viva La Dirt League: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blSXTZ3Nihs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blSXTZ3Nihs

par 1y ago
Praise the sun!

M4v3R 1y ago

Silksong is objectively hard, and if you're trying to argue otherwise you're either the mythical "god gamer" or just trolling. The game is unapologetically hard and punishing right from the beginning. The very second boss you encounter already hits you for 2 masks (which effectively means 3 hits and you're dead), and each time you try to fight him you first have to run back for a minute before you reach him. He even does 2 masks of contact damage. Heck, even some normal enemies you encounter in the first two hours deal 2 damage. The original Hollow Knight bosses didn't do 2 masks damage until half way through the game. Don't get me wrong, I still love the game and consider it pretty much a masterpiece, but many people believe (myself included) the game could have a better difficulty curve from the beginning and be less punishing (just give me a freaking bench before each boss so I don't have to run through 10 screens to have another try at it) while still maintaining the overall difficulty and challenge.

Gander5739 1y ago
The very first boss in Hollow Knight, False Knight, does two masks of damage.
- M4v3R 1y ago
  No, he doesn’t. Check for yourself at around 30:30 min mark: https://youtu.be/JNdJ5ozN8cU?feature=shared https://youtu.be/JNdJ5ozN8cU?feature=shared
- oneeyedpigeon 1y ago
  You're probably thinking of Failed Champion, the Dream variant.
Levitz 1y ago
It Is hard, sure. But this: "Silksong as a game should not exist. It is so brutally difficult that it stretches the very definition of the word "game"" is an immense exaggeration, I could understand this for, maybe, IWBTG.
japhib 1y ago
But you can heal 3 masks of damage in about the same amount of time it takes to heal 1 mask in HK ...
par 1y ago
"The game is unapologetically hard and punishing right from the beginning." -- sorry i just dont agree with that. Mosshome is really basic. My 11 year old kid is already in citadel. Yes the game is hard but i think the community is forgetting how hard the original HK was, not to mention when Dark Souls came out it was notorious! But yes I agree silksong has its moments. Moorwing made me feel at a complete loss for a while, first time i've felt that since I was fighting Ornstein and Smough in DS1. Last Judge was also pretty difficult but felt balanced and learnable. I guess more than anything it's just been cool to see the community come together on silksong.
butlike 1y ago
It's also obscene in this day and age I can't upgrade my weapon to out damage the boss if I feel I need to. One of my pet peeves is having game designers feel like their design supersedes how I want to play. If I absolutely do not want to play a boss; for whatever reason, I should be allowed to find an alternative way to get through that area. If grinding endlessly for damage is the alternative, fine. But at least there is one.

whatevaa 1y ago

Elden Ring is easier than Silksong. Summons are easy mode.

par 1y ago
i dont know about that, elden ring has some extremely difficult moments.