> > zuck, gates, cook, all rehabilitated their public image no-problem. They all shipped products that billions of people use and those old enough can remember

> > zuck, gates, cook, all rehabilitated their public image no-problem. They all shipped products that billions of people use and those old enough can remember a world without such products and how different it was. People can remember what the world was before Musk and it's the same as it is now, the wide eye fans are those who look at the technical accomplishments such as the rockets landing on their butt, however when they are asked by skeptics "what does it mean for me?" the response is always a not well specified "handwaving about the future" as if Musk was a 21yr old out of college