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No actually on that metric Montana is one of the most dangerous and Massachusetts is one of the safest.

throwaway2037 1y ago
> Massachusetts is one of the safest For those unaware, Boston (largest city in Massachusetts) has a reputation for incredibly aggressive drivers (so does New York City). Is Massachusetts relatively safer because it has so few freeways? I find it hard to believe this can be explained by "quality of drivers". Another idea: Maybe local police are very, very strict about drink/driving, thus reducing the number of deaths.
- potato3732842 1y ago
  >Maybe local police are very, very strict about drink/driving, thus reducing the number of deaths. The Karen Read trial was illustrative about how seriously Massachusetts law enforcement takes DUI.
  - hollerith 1y ago
    How is the Read trial relevant here? Karen Read was accused of intentionally running John O'Keefe over because she was angry at him.
    - potato3732842 1y ago
      >How is the Read trial relevant here? The conduct of the law enforcement professionals and people they associate with leading up to the events relevant to the trail is relevant to a discussion of how seriously they take DUI.
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      - hollerith 1y ago
        OK, how about this: how would someone who knows nothing about you other than your 2 comments here determine whether you think MA police take DUI seriously enough or whether you think they go too easy on DUI? Read did drive under the influence and police and prosecutors laid harsh charges against her, but they could've laid those harsh charges (first- and second-degree murder IIRC) against her even if she had been stone sober that night, so it seems to me that the Read case says nothing about how harshly police and prosecutors treat ordinary DUIs.
        potato3732842 1y ago
        Clearly the cops themselves have no problem with themselves and people in their social circles casually drinking and driving.

throwaway2037 1y ago

> Massachusetts is one of the safest For those unaware, Boston (largest city in Massachusetts) has a reputation for incredibly aggressive drivers (so does New York City). Is Massachusetts relatively safer because it has so few freeways? I find it hard to believe this can be explained by "quality of drivers". Another idea: Maybe local police are very, very strict about drink/driving, thus reducing the number of deaths.

potato3732842 1y ago
>Maybe local police are very, very strict about drink/driving, thus reducing the number of deaths. The Karen Read trial was illustrative about how seriously Massachusetts law enforcement takes DUI.
- hollerith 1y ago
  How is the Read trial relevant here? Karen Read was accused of intentionally running John O'Keefe over because she was angry at him.
  - potato3732842 1y ago
    >How is the Read trial relevant here? The conduct of the law enforcement professionals and people they associate with leading up to the events relevant to the trail is relevant to a discussion of how seriously they take DUI.
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    - hollerith 1y ago
      OK, how about this: how would someone who knows nothing about you other than your 2 comments here determine whether you think MA police take DUI seriously enough or whether you think they go too easy on DUI? Read did drive under the influence and police and prosecutors laid harsh charges against her, but they could've laid those harsh charges (first- and second-degree murder IIRC) against her even if she had been stone sober that night, so it seems to me that the Read case says nothing about how harshly police and prosecutors treat ordinary DUIs.
      - potato3732842 1y ago
        Clearly the cops themselves have no problem with themselves and people in their social circles casually drinking and driving.