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US Holocaust museum removes anti-genocide post after being corelatted with Gaza
- sudohalt 1y agoThe cognitive dissonance is astounding. This shows that what’s happening is far more than just a genocide. it’s a level of hatred and dehumanization so intense that even the possibility of appearing indirectly sympathetic to Palestinians is controversial. A universal moral statement like 'Never Again’ Can’t Only Mean Never Again For Jews' becomes unacceptable, not because it’s false, but because it dares to imply that Palestinian lives are worth grieving.
- therobots927 1y agoAnd because the hatred and dehumanization of Palestinians serves the interests of western capital, this attitude is hidden under buzzwords or just ignored completely by mainstream media.
- srameshc 1y agoThis will very likely get flagged and I am commenting this because I have noticed this pattern
- therobots927 1y agoYep. I saw two stories in the same day get flagged a week ago. Denial and censorship... Sillicon Valkey is complicit and no one wants to rock the boat.
- throwawaybob420 1y ago“It’s a complex topic!” “This isn’t related to technology!” “Keep politics out of HN!”
- stemlord 1y agohacking used to be deeply political but i guess i've come to learn over the past 15 years here that such a label here is just whitewashing for the kind of neoliberal capitalistic selfishness that has fueled modern day sv following the first wave of big tech successes that occurred a lifetime ago now
- throwawaybob420 1y ago[flagged]
- goku12 1y agoI have question on a related note. Why do public fora like HN and the western society in general, frown upon and harshly censor any comparisons of contemporary human actions with Nazi tactics (and explicitly not the magnitude of their consequences), made in order to highlight the underlying human behavior? The responses are as if they just saw Nazism or the Holocaust being glorified. Many replies often contain such exaggerated and inordinate amount of outrage that it makes you wonder if they witnessed the holocaust in person (in which case, the response would be justified on account of trauma. But the incident was 80 years ago). There is no question that the Holocaust was a horrific chapter in human history. But that extreme nature is also what makes it a treasure trove of references for human behavior - be it bad or good (like the heroics and selflessness of those who opposed it). Isn't that why we learn history? To reference it when relevant and to prevent a repeat of the past mistakes? Now especially, since Nazism is rearing its ugly heads again in multiple places on the planet, quite overtly at times. Instead, it's now difficult to draw any such parallels in human psychology for the fear of accidentally offending some people's fragile sensitivities. I still don't understand what it is that they get so offended about. The entire reaction feels quite pretentious and has strong vibes of virtue signalling and gatekeeping.
- therobots927 1y agoThat's a great question. I think on one hand people don't want the term to be diluted by comparisons to less heinous crimes. Maybe the following will help make sense of it: In the case of Palestine the comparison is made routinely on the left (socialist / anti war flank of the democrats). On the other hand you will see plenty of people on the center left flank (neoliberals) who refuse to talk about Palestine but are more than happy to compare Trump to Hitler. Now in this example I would agree with both comparisons at a high level but the IDF is clearly killing more people than ICE ever has and ever will. So you could argue that the center left is diluting the comparison and even making a mockery of it by not also talking about Palestine. But like I said more and more people are viewing the treatment of Palestine as on par with the treatment of the Jews in Germany. And accusations of "anti-semitism" don't work anymore after you've seen videos of kids missing limbs and settlers harassing old women in the West Bank.
- ryandrake 1y ago[flagged]
- elzbardico 1y agoWhy they don't understand this is just giving fuel for some awful people with sinister intentions? This mob censorship is absolutely counter-productive.
- bigyabai 1y agoThey do.
- antif 1y agoI think it’s newsworthy as related to managed web publishing/speech and the governance of online information. Did any Wikipedia articles cite this page? Do those need revision now??
- alkyon 1y agoThis is flagged by anti-Semites, obviously. Yes, Palestinians are Semites by all definitions.
- elzbardico 1y agoFrankly, Israel extremist religious-right immoral actions are detrimental to all the Jewish people. I am sad to see so many of my Jewish friend falling in the trap built by those crazy fanatics. This is not what you are, my friends! You don't owe allegiance to those monsters, we stand with you, but you need to find your courage to dissociate yourself from those killers!
- therobots927 1y agoThe devil himself couldn't have designed a more ingenious moral trap
- KittenInABox 1y ago> The first slide featured a drawing of a hexagon formed by six linked arms — various shades of brown and tan, the lightest one bearing a holocaust prisoner number tattoo — with the words “‘Never Again’ Can’t Only Mean Never Again For Jews.” Why would this mean Gaza? It could also very well mean the famine and human crisis in the Congo right now?
- DaveZale 1y agothat makes sense, hence the darker arms?
- LightBug1 1y ago[flagged]
- mcphage 1y agoAh, yes. “Genocide is bad, actually” is a strong position, so I can see why a museum devoted to the idea that genocide is bad might want to walk that back a bit.
- JohnTHaller 1y agoLink in case flaggers get it pulled: https://hyperallergic.com/1040088/los-angeles-holocaust-museum-walks-back-never-again-statement-sparking-outcry/ https://hyperallergic.com/1040088/los-angeles-holocaust-muse...