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It's ridiculously different, there's no single person or country that can do anything like that there are multiple ways to make EU law, there are regulations (

by pas 1y ago

It's ridiculously different, there's no single person or country that can do anything like that there are multiple ways to make EU law, there are regulations (that apply directly) and directives that member states need to implement (basically ratify) the Commission proposed something and then the Council votes on it and then there's the EP which votes on it this one is a regulation proposal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_to_Prevent_and_Combat_Child_Sexual_Abuse https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_to_Prevent_and_Co... the treaties have some areas that are under "Special legislative procedures" where the EP cannot propose amendments, but still has consent power, but in some cases like internal market exemptions and competition law only consultation right https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/decision-making/special-legislative-procedures/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/decision-makin...

varispeed 1y ago
Why this even got to a stage of being official? It's something a Nazi regime would implement today had it existed. There is no one in the EU that would tell those people are you fkin insane and give them a sack?
- supermatt 1y ago
  I assume from your comment history you are from the USA. It’s surprising how quickly you have forgotten CISPA, EARN IT, etc - which were much more invasive proposals than chat control (slurping of all data of everyone, not just client side scanning for csam). Of course, now you just cram unrelated shit into “big beautiful bills”, speed it through with minimal oversight using loopholes, and hope no one will notice. Has no one told you how fkin insane that is?
- pas 1y ago
  because we still live in the shadows of those times, unfortunately. there is at least one very bad quasi-dictatorship in the EU, Hungary, where "protecting the children" is used as the perfect propaganda slogen, but when it comes to holding abusers accountable, things are 240% farcical. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Nov%C3%A1k_presidential_pardon_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Nov%C3%A1k_presidentia... https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=G%C3%A1bor_Kaleta&oldid=1301124534 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=G%C3%A1bor_Kaleta... and of course Hungary supports this. who would have thought.

by pas 1y ago

varispeed 1y ago

Why this even got to a stage of being official? It's something a Nazi regime would implement today had it existed. There is no one in the EU that would tell those people are you fkin insane and give them a sack?

supermatt 1y ago
I assume from your comment history you are from the USA. It’s surprising how quickly you have forgotten CISPA, EARN IT, etc - which were much more invasive proposals than chat control (slurping of all data of everyone, not just client side scanning for csam). Of course, now you just cram unrelated shit into “big beautiful bills”, speed it through with minimal oversight using loopholes, and hope no one will notice. Has no one told you how fkin insane that is?
pas 1y ago
because we still live in the shadows of those times, unfortunately. there is at least one very bad quasi-dictatorship in the EU, Hungary, where "protecting the children" is used as the perfect propaganda slogen, but when it comes to holding abusers accountable, things are 240% farcical. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Nov%C3%A1k_presidential_pardon_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Nov%C3%A1k_presidentia... https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=G%C3%A1bor_Kaleta&oldid=1301124534 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=G%C3%A1bor_Kaleta... and of course Hungary supports this. who would have thought.