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Looking at the long list of faces for my country, it boggles my mind how all these people are fine letting the police just scan their phone, photos, messages at

by bapak 1y ago

Looking at the long list of faces for my country, it boggles my mind how all these people are fine letting the police just scan their phone, photos, messages at will, as if they don't have significant others or medical pictures on their phones, including of their children. Do they think they're above it? Are they stupid and don't know what they vote for? I do not understand.

77pt77 1y ago
I do. Are you going to the the "pedo" that is against protecting the children and catching predators? I know it's diseingenuous but these laws are crafted with that in mind. People that might take a real chance in challenging this are weeded out long before they get to these positions.
- Bender 1y ago
  I expect moms sharing bathtime pictures and videos with each other to get caught up in this as the censors get aroused by the content and project their own feelings of arousal and cognitive dissonance onto the parents sending bobbies and armed police to kick down doors. The legal costs and permenant damage to reputation will undoubtedly destroy many people.
  - the_sleaze_ 1y ago
    Please direct your complaints to our friendly chatbot who is always there to assist 24/7 365
- jasonlotito 1y ago
  > Are you going to the the "pedo" that is against protecting the children and catching predators? [sic] This is already happening. This is not about that.
Humorist2290 1y ago
From Patrick Brewer's analysis [0] it seems like written into the proposal is to enable members of the government to have access to excepted systems, if applied for things like law enforcement or "national security." If I had to guess, at least a few MEPs expect they will be able to use such an exemption for their personal communications. [0] https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/
- b112 1y ago
  But won't they hqve to email people @gmail, for their personal communications?
jonaharagon 1y ago
> Do they think they're above it? Yes, the lawmakers literally exempt themselves from this law in this law.
- bapak 1y ago
  You can't exempt yourself from the backdoor you carry in your pocket.
PhantomHour 1y ago
> Do they think they're above it? Are they stupid and don't know what they vote for? They're somewhat out of touch with tech, and caught up in police narratives around encrypted apps blocking their attempts to find pedos. Tech firm lobbyists sell them some lies about the capabilities of these systems. Ultimately these are politicians stuck in the notion of "but the police can open your [physical] letters, this isn't any different" completely unaware of how times have moved on. Matters like how people are already being harassed by CSAM being sent to their DMs, how people raid discord servers and try to have them taking down by spamming CSAM, etc, are completely lost on these politicians. On top of that it's just cowardice. Not daring to be seen as "aiding pedos".
- giveita 1y ago
  WhatsApp is the new living room for families. Living rooms are part of an English house. A castle, if you like.

by bapak 1y ago

77pt77 1y ago

I do. Are you going to the the "pedo" that is against protecting the children and catching predators? I know it's diseingenuous but these laws are crafted with that in mind. People that might take a real chance in challenging this are weeded out long before they get to these positions.

Bender 1y ago
I expect moms sharing bathtime pictures and videos with each other to get caught up in this as the censors get aroused by the content and project their own feelings of arousal and cognitive dissonance onto the parents sending bobbies and armed police to kick down doors. The legal costs and permenant damage to reputation will undoubtedly destroy many people.
- the_sleaze_ 1y ago
  Please direct your complaints to our friendly chatbot who is always there to assist 24/7 365
jasonlotito 1y ago
> Are you going to the the "pedo" that is against protecting the children and catching predators? [sic] This is already happening. This is not about that.

Humorist2290 1y ago

From Patrick Brewer's analysis [0] it seems like written into the proposal is to enable members of the government to have access to excepted systems, if applied for things like law enforcement or "national security." If I had to guess, at least a few MEPs expect they will be able to use such an exemption for their personal communications. [0] https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/

b112 1y ago
But won't they hqve to email people @gmail, for their personal communications?

jonaharagon 1y ago

> Do they think they're above it? Yes, the lawmakers literally exempt themselves from this law in this law.

bapak 1y ago
You can't exempt yourself from the backdoor you carry in your pocket.

PhantomHour 1y ago

> Do they think they're above it? Are they stupid and don't know what they vote for? They're somewhat out of touch with tech, and caught up in police narratives around encrypted apps blocking their attempts to find pedos. Tech firm lobbyists sell them some lies about the capabilities of these systems. Ultimately these are politicians stuck in the notion of "but the police can open your [physical] letters, this isn't any different" completely unaware of how times have moved on. Matters like how people are already being harassed by CSAM being sent to their DMs, how people raid discord servers and try to have them taking down by spamming CSAM, etc, are completely lost on these politicians. On top of that it's just cowardice. Not daring to be seen as "aiding pedos".

giveita 1y ago
WhatsApp is the new living room for families. Living rooms are part of an English house. A castle, if you like.