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Yes, I am sure. Progressive policies such as raising the minimum wage, mandating benefits such as paid leave, and making it easier for workers to sue for vario

Yes, I am sure. Progressive policies such as raising the minimum wage, mandating benefits such as paid leave, and making it easier for workers to sue for various infractions, some of an extremely technical nature, has the effect of making it more expensive and legally risky to hire workers. There's an enormous laundry list of such policies and progressives never seem to get tired of inventing new ones. The result will be that less workers are hired than otherwise.

ToucanLoucan 1y ago
This is such a nothingburger of a point that gets trotted out every time these discussions happen. No business I have ever worked for in my entire career has given a wet shit about the "regulatory burden" of hiring. We hire the minimum number of people we think can do a given job effectively, and then products end prices are based on those expenses, raw materials, with an amount on top for profit. The regulatory and compliance burden is an expense, sure, but it was an expense the second we hired one person. The work is more for 150 people vs 1, sure. But that's literally why you have an HR department, that's their entire reason to exist. If your business can't employ people without abusing them you don't belong in business, period, paragraph. Stop bellyaching about the work you have to do to run a business and do your fucking job.
- baggy_trough 1y ago
  If you think the minimum wage and regulatory burdens have no effect on hiring, I can only conclude that you exist in a conceptual universe very different from my own, and one that does not correspond to economic reality.
dotnet00 1y ago
You're definitely correct in saying that there would be far more jobs to go around if we went back to industrial revolution era worker's rights. The utter gall of people to want to afford rent and time with their families.
- bryanlarsen 1y ago
  Actually, that may not be obviously correct. The economy is circular. If workers don't have any money, they can't spend it and there's no money to hire workers.

ToucanLoucan 1y ago

This is such a nothingburger of a point that gets trotted out every time these discussions happen. No business I have ever worked for in my entire career has given a wet shit about the "regulatory burden" of hiring. We hire the minimum number of people we think can do a given job effectively, and then products end prices are based on those expenses, raw materials, with an amount on top for profit. The regulatory and compliance burden is an expense, sure, but it was an expense the second we hired one person. The work is more for 150 people vs 1, sure. But that's literally why you have an HR department, that's their entire reason to exist. If your business can't employ people without abusing them you don't belong in business, period, paragraph. Stop bellyaching about the work you have to do to run a business and do your fucking job.

baggy_trough 1y ago
If you think the minimum wage and regulatory burdens have no effect on hiring, I can only conclude that you exist in a conceptual universe very different from my own, and one that does not correspond to economic reality.

dotnet00 1y ago

You're definitely correct in saying that there would be far more jobs to go around if we went back to industrial revolution era worker's rights. The utter gall of people to want to afford rent and time with their families.

bryanlarsen 1y ago
Actually, that may not be obviously correct. The economy is circular. If workers don't have any money, they can't spend it and there's no money to hire workers.