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> Especially after SyncThing disappeared from Play Store (because it was basically a non-Android app behind a thin Android shell that couldn't easily be upgrad

> Especially after SyncThing disappeared from Play Store (because it was basically a non-Android app behind a thin Android shell that couldn't easily be upgraded to more modern native APIs), there's nothing super-obvious here. That's not what happened, it was Google who started rejecting their updates on Play store. I believe the original Android app maintainer quit after that but there's a fork on on F-droid which works perfectly.

graemep 1y ago
fork that will work perfectly until year after next.
- Zambyte 1y ago
  Why?
  - cyphar 1y ago
    Presumably they're referring to Google's plans to roll out developer signing requirements for all apps[1], which will affect F-Droid-installed apps. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45017028 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45017028
    - Sanzig 1y ago
      Assuming that the developer of Syncthing-Fork doesn't mind providing ID to Google, they shouldn't have an issue getting a signing key (we will see how this works in practice). They aren't doing anything objectionable to Google. The bigger issue for third party apps will be things like Newpipe, where applying for a key will put the developers in danger of a lawsuit because it affects Google's business. (The APK signing requirement is a fiasco, I'm not defending Google. Just pointing out that this app will probably not be as seriously impacted as others).
    - sunaookami 1y ago
      FWIW, adb install will continue to work: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Android-s-app-sideloading-block-has-a-potential-workaround.1107566.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Android-s-app-sideloading-bloc...
- npoc 1y ago
  Not if you run the GrapheneOS variant of Android.
  - graemep 1y ago
    I would love to but my banking apps only work on Google Android.
    - npoc 1y ago
      Unlucky. All three of mine work on GrapheneOS https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/ https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

graemep 1y ago

fork that will work perfectly until year after next.

Zambyte 1y ago
Why?
- cyphar 1y ago
  Presumably they're referring to Google's plans to roll out developer signing requirements for all apps[1], which will affect F-Droid-installed apps. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45017028 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45017028
  - Sanzig 1y ago
    Assuming that the developer of Syncthing-Fork doesn't mind providing ID to Google, they shouldn't have an issue getting a signing key (we will see how this works in practice). They aren't doing anything objectionable to Google. The bigger issue for third party apps will be things like Newpipe, where applying for a key will put the developers in danger of a lawsuit because it affects Google's business. (The APK signing requirement is a fiasco, I'm not defending Google. Just pointing out that this app will probably not be as seriously impacted as others).
  - sunaookami 1y ago
    FWIW, adb install will continue to work: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Android-s-app-sideloading-block-has-a-potential-workaround.1107566.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Android-s-app-sideloading-bloc...
npoc 1y ago
Not if you run the GrapheneOS variant of Android.
- graemep 1y ago
  I would love to but my banking apps only work on Google Android.
  - npoc 1y ago
    Unlucky. All three of mine work on GrapheneOS https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/ https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...