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How do you block ads on an iPhone? My argument was that for the average user it's hard to not deal with Google, you're yet to provide a single actual argument

How do you block ads on an iPhone? My argument was that for the average user it's hard to not deal with Google, you're yet to provide a single actual argument that I'm wrong.

raw_anon_1111 1y ago
In Safari? Use one of the many content blockers available for iOS. They have been available for a decade. You haven’t provided a single argument where an iPhone user needs Google for anything. Your argument about only people “in the industry” using Adblockers was wrong.
- lillecarl 1y ago
  They might not need Google, but they can't get away from them anyways. Google has entrenched themselves everywhere. You're arguing against your own interpretation of what I'm saying. People use the defaults, people use YouTube, people use Google, people use Gmail, people use Google Maps. 30% use adblockers which are manifestv2 style, they won't block anything companies want you to see. You can't block ads in apps.
  - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
    If you buy an iPhone in 2025 , by default you are not going to have the YouTube App, you’re not going to be setting up a Gmail account by default and you aren’t going to be using Google maps. You will be using Google search unless you go into settings. Tell me exactly what website ads are not being blocked by my 1Blocker extension? BTW, Safari for iOS has supported more permissive browser extensions for a few years now. Also, what does ads in apps have to do with Google? 90% of apps that are downloaded and revenue generating directly via in app purchases and I assume ads are games (came out in the Epic v Apple trial). Google isn’t even a player in that category of ads for the most part. They definitely aren’t the dominant player.
    - lillecarl 1y ago
      Just because in 2025 the defaults don't have YouTube or Gmail doesn't mean they've not already entrenched themselves. I can't tell you EXACTLY which sites aren't blocked by your domain based adblocker, I'm not an adblock developer. If you believe Google doesn't deserve antitrust measures for their duopoly with Apple you're free to do so, you're still arguing against things you interpret freely to make your points.
      - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        YouTube hasn’t been an included app on iPhone since 2010 and Google Maps hasn’t been included since 2012. Even then, the Google Maps app wasn’t included. Even from the first version of iOS, the Google app wasn’t included. It was the Apple Maps app using Google for the back end. When Apple started using their own data, they still kept your search history and favorites from the earlier version. > I can't tell you EXACTLY which sites aren't blocked by your domain based adblocker, I'm not an adblock developer. So in other words you just threw something out there without any evidence… > If you believe Google doesn't deserve antitrust measures for their duopoly with Apple you're free to do so, you're still arguing against things you interpret freely to make your points. The case was never about mobile and Google doesn’t have even 50% of the market in the US in mobile. Unless you have some evidence that Apple and Google illegally colluded in the mobile market, there is no law against being part of a “duopoly”. And you still haven’t said why an iPhone user needs Google or default of having YouTube and using Google Maos data over a decade ago is relevant in 2025.
        lillecarl 1y ago
        You're impossible to have a discussion with, you keep neglecting that Google is everywhere and going for lawyer like interpretations when it suits you. You won this time!
        raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        You won’t give specifics. Google may be everywhere in your bubble just like water is everywhere to a fish. I’m asking you to explain to me as an iPhone user - along with 60% of the mobile users in the US - why I need Google, and where is it even a default besides search?

How do you block ads on an iPhone? My argument was that for the average user it's hard to not deal with Google, you're yet to provide a single actual argument that I'm wrong.

raw_anon_1111 1y ago

In Safari? Use one of the many content blockers available for iOS. They have been available for a decade. You haven’t provided a single argument where an iPhone user needs Google for anything. Your argument about only people “in the industry” using Adblockers was wrong.

lillecarl 1y ago
They might not need Google, but they can't get away from them anyways. Google has entrenched themselves everywhere. You're arguing against your own interpretation of what I'm saying. People use the defaults, people use YouTube, people use Google, people use Gmail, people use Google Maps. 30% use adblockers which are manifestv2 style, they won't block anything companies want you to see. You can't block ads in apps.
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago
  If you buy an iPhone in 2025 , by default you are not going to have the YouTube App, you’re not going to be setting up a Gmail account by default and you aren’t going to be using Google maps. You will be using Google search unless you go into settings. Tell me exactly what website ads are not being blocked by my 1Blocker extension? BTW, Safari for iOS has supported more permissive browser extensions for a few years now. Also, what does ads in apps have to do with Google? 90% of apps that are downloaded and revenue generating directly via in app purchases and I assume ads are games (came out in the Epic v Apple trial). Google isn’t even a player in that category of ads for the most part. They definitely aren’t the dominant player.
  - lillecarl 1y ago
    Just because in 2025 the defaults don't have YouTube or Gmail doesn't mean they've not already entrenched themselves. I can't tell you EXACTLY which sites aren't blocked by your domain based adblocker, I'm not an adblock developer. If you believe Google doesn't deserve antitrust measures for their duopoly with Apple you're free to do so, you're still arguing against things you interpret freely to make your points.
    - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
      YouTube hasn’t been an included app on iPhone since 2010 and Google Maps hasn’t been included since 2012. Even then, the Google Maps app wasn’t included. Even from the first version of iOS, the Google app wasn’t included. It was the Apple Maps app using Google for the back end. When Apple started using their own data, they still kept your search history and favorites from the earlier version. > I can't tell you EXACTLY which sites aren't blocked by your domain based adblocker, I'm not an adblock developer. So in other words you just threw something out there without any evidence… > If you believe Google doesn't deserve antitrust measures for their duopoly with Apple you're free to do so, you're still arguing against things you interpret freely to make your points. The case was never about mobile and Google doesn’t have even 50% of the market in the US in mobile. Unless you have some evidence that Apple and Google illegally colluded in the mobile market, there is no law against being part of a “duopoly”. And you still haven’t said why an iPhone user needs Google or default of having YouTube and using Google Maos data over a decade ago is relevant in 2025.
      - lillecarl 1y ago
        You're impossible to have a discussion with, you keep neglecting that Google is everywhere and going for lawyer like interpretations when it suits you. You won this time!
        raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        You won’t give specifics. Google may be everywhere in your bubble just like water is everywhere to a fish. I’m asking you to explain to me as an iPhone user - along with 60% of the mobile users in the US - why I need Google, and where is it even a default besides search?