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As an Apple user - which I am - name one service that Google has that I can’t switch away from? If you buy a device whose operating system is developed and mar
by raw_anon_1111 1y ago
As an Apple user - which I am - name one service that Google has that I can’t switch away from?
If you buy a device whose operating system is developed and marketed by Google, why would you have any expectation to be able to switch from Google?
And Android doesn’t even have 50% market share in the US so it’s definitely not a monopoly.
- lillecarl 1y agoYouTube, adsense, search, gmail. Not impossible, but very hard for many.
- raw_anon_1111 1y agoI don’t need YouTube, I have 1Blocker to block ads, I use ChatGPT for search and there are plenty of other mail providers - including Apple’s own.
- lillecarl 1y agoWhat do you work with? The initial comment was never about what someone in the industry can and can't do, most people browse the web without an adblocker.
- raw_anon_1111 1y agoAlmost a third of users use Adblockers. https://backlinko.com/ad-blockers-users https://backlinko.com/ad-blockers-users I’m almost sure that a third of the world’s population is not “in the industry”
- lillecarl 1y agoHow do you block ads on an iPhone? My argument was that for the average user it's hard to not deal with Google, you're yet to provide a single actual argument that I'm wrong.
- raw_anon_1111 1y agoIn Safari? Use one of the many content blockers available for iOS. They have been available for a decade. You haven’t provided a single argument where an iPhone user needs Google for anything. Your argument about only people “in the industry” using Adblockers was wrong.
- lillecarl 1y agoThey might not need Google, but they can't get away from them anyways. Google has entrenched themselves everywhere. You're arguing against your own interpretation of what I'm saying. People use the defaults, people use YouTube, people use Google, people use Gmail, people use Google Maps. 30% use adblockers which are manifestv2 style, they won't block anything companies want you to see. You can't block ads in apps.
- raw_anon_1111 1y agoIf you buy an iPhone in 2025 , by default you are not going to have the YouTube App, you’re not going to be setting up a Gmail account by default and you aren’t going to be using Google maps. You will be using Google search unless you go into settings. Tell me exactly what website ads are not being blocked by my 1Blocker extension? BTW, Safari for iOS has supported more permissive browser extensions for a few years now. Also, what does ads in apps have to do with Google? 90% of apps that are downloaded and revenue generating directly via in app purchases and I assume ads are games (came out in the Epic v Apple trial). Google isn’t even a player in that category of ads for the most part. They definitely aren’t the dominant player.
- lillecarl 1y agoJust because in 2025 the defaults don't have YouTube or Gmail doesn't mean they've not already entrenched themselves. I can't tell you EXACTLY which sites aren't blocked by your domain based adblocker, I'm not an adblock developer. If you believe Google doesn't deserve antitrust measures for their duopoly with Apple you're free to do so, you're still arguing against things you interpret freely to make your points.
- squeaky-clean 1y agoI don't get how an article showing that 70% of people don't use adblockers is supposed to be a disagreement with the statement that most people don't use adblockers.
- raw_anon_1111 1y agoIt’s an argument against only “someone in the industry” uses ad blockers like it’s a technically difficult thing to do.