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And how hard is it to switch from Google?

by JustExAWS 1y ago

lillecarl 1y ago
If you're an Apple user, hard. If you're an Android user, borderline impossible.
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago
  As an Apple user - which I am - name one service that Google has that I can’t switch away from? If you buy a device whose operating system is developed and marketed by Google, why would you have any expectation to be able to switch from Google? And Android doesn’t even have 50% market share in the US so it’s definitely not a monopoly.
  - lillecarl 1y ago
    YouTube, adsense, search, gmail. Not impossible, but very hard for many.
    - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
      I don’t need YouTube, I have 1Blocker to block ads, I use ChatGPT for search and there are plenty of other mail providers - including Apple’s own.
      - lillecarl 1y ago
        What do you work with? The initial comment was never about what someone in the industry can and can't do, most people browse the web without an adblocker.
        raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        Almost a third of users use Adblockers. https://backlinko.com/ad-blockers-users https://backlinko.com/ad-blockers-users I’m almost sure that a third of the world’s population is not “in the industry”
        lillecarl 1y ago
        How do you block ads on an iPhone? My argument was that for the average user it's hard to not deal with Google, you're yet to provide a single actual argument that I'm wrong.
        raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        In Safari? Use one of the many content blockers available for iOS. They have been available for a decade. You haven’t provided a single argument where an iPhone user needs Google for anything. Your argument about only people “in the industry” using Adblockers was wrong.
        lillecarl 1y ago
        They might not need Google, but they can't get away from them anyways. Google has entrenched themselves everywhere. You're arguing against your own interpretation of what I'm saying. People use the defaults, people use YouTube, people use Google, people use Gmail, people use Google Maps. 30% use adblockers which are manifestv2 style, they won't block anything companies want you to see. You can't block ads in apps.
        raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        If you buy an iPhone in 2025 , by default you are not going to have the YouTube App, you’re not going to be setting up a Gmail account by default and you aren’t going to be using Google maps. You will be using Google search unless you go into settings. Tell me exactly what website ads are not being blocked by my 1Blocker extension? BTW, Safari for iOS has supported more permissive browser extensions for a few years now. Also, what does ads in apps have to do with Google? 90% of apps that are downloaded and revenue generating directly via in app purchases and I assume ads are games (came out in the Epic v Apple trial). Google isn’t even a player in that category of ads for the most part. They definitely aren’t the dominant player.
        1y ago

And how hard is it to switch from Google?

lillecarl 1y ago

If you're an Apple user, hard. If you're an Android user, borderline impossible.

raw_anon_1111 1y ago
As an Apple user - which I am - name one service that Google has that I can’t switch away from? If you buy a device whose operating system is developed and marketed by Google, why would you have any expectation to be able to switch from Google? And Android doesn’t even have 50% market share in the US so it’s definitely not a monopoly.
- lillecarl 1y ago
  YouTube, adsense, search, gmail. Not impossible, but very hard for many.
  - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
    I don’t need YouTube, I have 1Blocker to block ads, I use ChatGPT for search and there are plenty of other mail providers - including Apple’s own.
    - lillecarl 1y ago
      What do you work with? The initial comment was never about what someone in the industry can and can't do, most people browse the web without an adblocker.
      - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        Almost a third of users use Adblockers. https://backlinko.com/ad-blockers-users https://backlinko.com/ad-blockers-users I’m almost sure that a third of the world’s population is not “in the industry”
        lillecarl 1y ago
        How do you block ads on an iPhone? My argument was that for the average user it's hard to not deal with Google, you're yet to provide a single actual argument that I'm wrong.
        raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        In Safari? Use one of the many content blockers available for iOS. They have been available for a decade. You haven’t provided a single argument where an iPhone user needs Google for anything. Your argument about only people “in the industry” using Adblockers was wrong.
        lillecarl 1y ago
        They might not need Google, but they can't get away from them anyways. Google has entrenched themselves everywhere. You're arguing against your own interpretation of what I'm saying. People use the defaults, people use YouTube, people use Google, people use Gmail, people use Google Maps. 30% use adblockers which are manifestv2 style, they won't block anything companies want you to see. You can't block ads in apps.
        raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        If you buy an iPhone in 2025 , by default you are not going to have the YouTube App, you’re not going to be setting up a Gmail account by default and you aren’t going to be using Google maps. You will be using Google search unless you go into settings. Tell me exactly what website ads are not being blocked by my 1Blocker extension? BTW, Safari for iOS has supported more permissive browser extensions for a few years now. Also, what does ads in apps have to do with Google? 90% of apps that are downloaded and revenue generating directly via in app purchases and I assume ads are games (came out in the Epic v Apple trial). Google isn’t even a player in that category of ads for the most part. They definitely aren’t the dominant player.
        1y ago