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I think there will come a point where people realize that we will need several ground breaking research papers (not unlike the “Attention is All you Need”) in o

I think there will come a point where people realize that we will need several ground breaking research papers (not unlike the “Attention is All you Need”) in order build a truly conscious intelligence. Language is only one aspect of a conscious mind, there are others like the ones that handle executive function, spatial and logical thinking, reasoning, emotional regulation, and many others. LLMs only deal with the language part and that’s not nearly enough to build a true AGI— a conscious mind that lives inside computer that we can control. Intelligence is an emergent property that comes as a result of all distinct functions of the brain (whether biological or artificial) being deeply intertwined.

615341652341 1y ago
I have this pet theory that LLMs are closer to how our brains generate dreams than how consciousness emerges naturally from the brain using all the other aspects you mentioned.
- tim333 1y ago
  To me they seem like the rapid language generation bit of the brain where you say stuff without thinking about it. They are good at that but bad at thinking, remembering, visualizing and the like. The DeepDream stuff seemed quite dreamlike (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepDream https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepDream)
10111two 1y ago
You raise several good points, and I completely agree. Intelligence is an emergent property but there are some prerequisite to intelligence. Memory formations, original thought generation (imagination and creativity), anticipation, multifunctional trigger ability (think of how our one sense triggers responses of other senses). These emergent properties result in intelligence. We are exploring this principle first approach at JN Research. If you are interested, i would recommend this blog post: https://jn-research.com/blog/f/beyond-ai-%E2%80%93-introducing-the-next-frontier-of-machine-cognition https://jn-research.com/blog/f/beyond-ai-%E2%80%93-introduci...
- speedylight 1y ago
  Hey, thank you for linking the blogpost it was super interesting and aligns very well with my own theories/framework in regard to how we might be able to build a truly intelligent mind. I honestly wish I could be involved in this kind of research because I think I can have a positive impact on the field, I just lack the technical skills (for now) to conduct the research. Anywho, I think JN Research is onto something with the Adaptrons/Primite and hope you guys are able to take it as far as it’ll go.

615341652341 1y ago

I have this pet theory that LLMs are closer to how our brains generate dreams than how consciousness emerges naturally from the brain using all the other aspects you mentioned.

tim333 1y ago
To me they seem like the rapid language generation bit of the brain where you say stuff without thinking about it. They are good at that but bad at thinking, remembering, visualizing and the like. The DeepDream stuff seemed quite dreamlike (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepDream https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepDream)

10111two 1y ago

You raise several good points, and I completely agree. Intelligence is an emergent property but there are some prerequisite to intelligence. Memory formations, original thought generation (imagination and creativity), anticipation, multifunctional trigger ability (think of how our one sense triggers responses of other senses). These emergent properties result in intelligence. We are exploring this principle first approach at JN Research. If you are interested, i would recommend this blog post: https://jn-research.com/blog/f/beyond-ai-%E2%80%93-introducing-the-next-frontier-of-machine-cognition https://jn-research.com/blog/f/beyond-ai-%E2%80%93-introduci...

speedylight 1y ago
Hey, thank you for linking the blogpost it was super interesting and aligns very well with my own theories/framework in regard to how we might be able to build a truly intelligent mind. I honestly wish I could be involved in this kind of research because I think I can have a positive impact on the field, I just lack the technical skills (for now) to conduct the research. Anywho, I think JN Research is onto something with the Adaptrons/Primite and hope you guys are able to take it as far as it’ll go.