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>The Amazon centers are property tax-abated for 10 years, providing instead 1.5% income tax on workers via a joint economic development agreement with Marysvill
by delfinom 1y ago
>The Amazon centers are property tax-abated for 10 years, providing instead 1.5% income tax on workers via a joint economic development agreement with Marysville.
After construction, a small fraction of workers remain to be taxed, she said.
Lol, gotta love the scam. Small town politicians must get some amazing bribes.
>While under construction about a year ago, a worker at the Warren Road Amazon facility was crushed to death, Stewart said. Another fell to his death in February at the Industrial Parkway site.
And an April 17 fire at the Industrial Parkway center tied up firefighters for more than 30 hours, causing $50 million in damage, Stewart said.
During each call, Stewart said, Amazon officials have not been helpful.
"They wanted to do background checks on all my firefighters; I wouldn't let them," he said. "And we've struggled to gain access to emergencies. They'll stop us at the gate, and our medic units have been delayed. They're denying us access to patients.
You immediately arrest have any employee interfering with emergency response and throw them in jail. Repeat until Amazon runs out of employees dumb enough to continue doing so.
- hermannj314 1y agoBut our CISO paint-by-number checklist says only people with background checks and the NDAs can enter the data center. We can't have emergency services stealing our customer's bits!
- guardiangod 1y ago>You immediately arrest have any employee interfering with emergency response and throw them in jail. Imagine that you work for a 3 letter US agency and is storing confidential data on AWS. Would you allow random individuals (yes even for emergency personnel) to have unfetter access to your computation and storage systems? What about health data? What about data belonging to other countries? Do you do a sweep for unauthorized remote access device after the incident?
- stackskipton 1y agoIf that’s what they are storing, they can do what many other government agencies are doing and staff their own first responders.
- rightbyte 1y agoWell the thing with emergency services needing emergency access right now is that Amazon would have needed to think about that at an earlier stage.
- PenguinCoder 1y agoSo you let them in with an eyes on, constant escort.
- stronglikedan 1y agoThen they need to have staff on site that is fully qualified to handle any type of emergency any time there is anyone at all in the facility, which they don't.
- hakkoru 1y agoI've never experienced it but I've been told that if an emergency responder needs to enter an area where classified information is stored you let them in, escort them, and security will debrief them and have them sign an NDA after the fact if they saw any classified information.
- thepryz 1y agoThis is largely correct. However, staff also need to be trained and drilled on security policies and procedures. That's often lacking, especially if security is outsourced to third party contractors.
- teeray 1y ago> you let them in, escort them My understanding is that the fire department has pretty broad legal authority to tell you where to shove your policies your if your building is on fire. They can legally smash down your doors, haul you out kicking and screaming, and detain you outside of the building while they put the fire out.
- BeFlatXIII 1y ago…and why should the local fire department care about those concerns?
- mjr00 1y agoBecause there are federal agents with rifles guarding the data center, and they're allowed to use deadly force if the local FD ignores their instructions.
- FireBeyond 1y agoWhat AWS datacenters are guarded by federal agents?
- mjr00 1y agoThe ones hosting classified data used by federal agencies. https://aws.amazon.com/federal/us-intelligence-community/ https://aws.amazon.com/federal/us-intelligence-community/
- kjkjadksj 1y agoIs that this one in particular?
- mjr00 1y agoReading between the lines: yes, certainly. Amazon wouldn't stop firefighters from getting into a normal datacenter, nor would they have the authority to stop them if they wanted to. A private corporation can't demand background checks from emergency responders; a letter agency can.
- kjkjadksj 1y agoOne would think they would cite that as a reason
- bombcar 1y agoIf the first responders can draw guns on the DataCenter and it can’t defend itself, it’s not worthy of being declared a TLA site.
- FireBeyond 1y ago> "And we've struggled to gain access to emergencies. They'll stop us at the gate, and our medic units have been delayed. They're denying us access to patients. > You immediately arrest have any employee interfering with emergency response and throw them in jail. Repeat until Amazon runs out of employees dumb enough to continue doing so. Absolutely. Ex-paramedic/firefighter. We responded to a cult facility once (think Nexium-esque but "bigger"). 911 call for chest pain. Stopped at the gate by armed guards. "You can't bring your ambulance in". Uh, yes, we can. "No. We can't allow you in, then." My officer at the time, to the head guard, "Are you the individual who called 911?" "No, I'm not, someone in there did." "Alright, so to be very clear before I call law enforcement out here, you are acknowledging you are interfering with emergency services performing their duty by actively preventing us from getting to our patient?" We got let in.
- bombcar 1y agoI like the part where people suddenly realize just how much gate you would need to stop 30 tons of fire truck. Most facilities don’t have it. Those that do have their own medical personnel (and tanks, usually).