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The truth is we have no idea. Personally I'm 100% sure the future will look nothing like what Altman is saying, but I'm a logical person so I have to admit ther

The truth is we have no idea. Personally I'm 100% sure the future will look nothing like what Altman is saying, but I'm a logical person so I have to admit there exist a minuscule probability these GenAI CEO's vision will come true. More rationally, I'd expect something like Meta with Metaverse - enormously missing the mark but still useful for many people. The actual usage will be a function of utility and price.

bjacobel 1y ago
Who has "the Metaverse" been useful for?
- benterix 1y ago
  Not the concept but the device itself - for players.
  - bjacobel 1y ago
    Can you provide usage statistics to support this claim?
    - benterix 1y ago
      https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-store-revenue-milestone-2025-update/ https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-store-revenue-milestone-...
      - bjacobel 1y ago
        1. Those are revenue statistics. I am asking for you to provide data to support the claim “users are finding utility from the Metaverse”, not the claim “Meta is generating revenue from the Quest Marketplace.” Those are different claims. 2. Is it your assertion that all content offered on the Quest Marketplace is “the Metaverse?” Is the top paid application “Beat Saber” a Metaverse app? 3. The source of your statistics is Meta, a company famous for repeatedly falsifying platform usage metrics [1]. https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/08/21/meta-accused-of-inflating-ad-results-dodging-apple-privacy-rules https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/08/21/meta-accused-of-i...
        benterix 1y ago
        You are right, I can't prove the validity of "users are finding utility from the Metaverse". I somewhat can argue that the device itself is indeed useful though: https://patentpc.com/blog/vr-headset-sales-stats-whos-leading-the-market https://patentpc.com/blog/vr-headset-sales-stats-whos-leadin... 20 millions is not nothing, it means that at least some people find these useful, and I can understand why, even though personally I wouldn't touch it. Also, I believe VR had similarly distorted expectations as LLMs, with the whole Meta rebranding, Apple VR etc., all it being a flop from the point of view of investors (and, in the case of Apple VR, a good portion of users): https://nypost.com/2024/11/12/tech/apples-vision-pro-flop-company-scales-back-production-of-3500-vr-headset-amid-lackluster-sales-customer-complaints/ https://nypost.com/2024/11/12/tech/apples-vision-pro-flop-co...

bjacobel 1y ago

Who has "the Metaverse" been useful for?

benterix 1y ago
Not the concept but the device itself - for players.
- bjacobel 1y ago
  Can you provide usage statistics to support this claim?
  - benterix 1y ago
    https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-store-revenue-milestone-2025-update/ https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-store-revenue-milestone-...
    - bjacobel 1y ago
      1. Those are revenue statistics. I am asking for you to provide data to support the claim “users are finding utility from the Metaverse”, not the claim “Meta is generating revenue from the Quest Marketplace.” Those are different claims. 2. Is it your assertion that all content offered on the Quest Marketplace is “the Metaverse?” Is the top paid application “Beat Saber” a Metaverse app? 3. The source of your statistics is Meta, a company famous for repeatedly falsifying platform usage metrics [1]. https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/08/21/meta-accused-of-inflating-ad-results-dodging-apple-privacy-rules https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/08/21/meta-accused-of-i...
      - benterix 1y ago
        You are right, I can't prove the validity of "users are finding utility from the Metaverse". I somewhat can argue that the device itself is indeed useful though: https://patentpc.com/blog/vr-headset-sales-stats-whos-leading-the-market https://patentpc.com/blog/vr-headset-sales-stats-whos-leadin... 20 millions is not nothing, it means that at least some people find these useful, and I can understand why, even though personally I wouldn't touch it. Also, I believe VR had similarly distorted expectations as LLMs, with the whole Meta rebranding, Apple VR etc., all it being a flop from the point of view of investors (and, in the case of Apple VR, a good portion of users): https://nypost.com/2024/11/12/tech/apples-vision-pro-flop-company-scales-back-production-of-3500-vr-headset-amid-lackluster-sales-customer-complaints/ https://nypost.com/2024/11/12/tech/apples-vision-pro-flop-co...