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Yeah, but then you could just flash with a different ROM or something and prevent that warning from being displayed?

by leoh 1y ago

shakna 1y ago
If you could do that, you could just flash a new ROM to ignore serial errors, too. The checks are not entirely in software, and would not be in showing the error, either.
- 486sx33 1y ago
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areoform 1y ago
Then what stops this "counter-measure" from "working?" Could they not just "flash with a different ROM or something" to allow the part to work normally? I genuinely doubt that the level of theft ever rose to a large enough margin, if it did, Apple would have pulled out of China. For reference, Apple employs ex-NSA, CIA, TLA professionals to solve this exact problem with a near endless budget and 0 oversight and accountability. Most notably, one of the organisational leaders was caught bribing the sheriff's office for concealed carry permits, https://www.ft.com/content/e73676d7-c6bc-4b07-b9bf-9bd702f1f437 https://www.ft.com/content/e73676d7-c6bc-4b07-b9bf-9bd702f1f... / https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/29/apples_chief_security_officer_facing/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/29/apples_chief_security...
- jackvalentine 1y ago
  > I genuinely doubt that the level of theft ever rose to a large enough margin, if it did, Apple would have pulled out of China. There was a point where the black market in China was making more on Apple products than Apple itself. They initially tried to have stricter warranty conditions in China as a fix, but state media decided this was an affront to the country: https://www.infoworld.com/article/2271627/apple-clarifies-warranty-policy-in-china-amid-state-press-criticism-2.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2271627/apple-clarifies-wa... Hence, the technical fix. Why pull out when you can apply a technical fix and retain both access to the biggest consumer electronics market in the world and maintain the good graces of the country that manufactures almost all your products?

Yeah, but then you could just flash with a different ROM or something and prevent that warning from being displayed?

by leoh 1y ago

Yeah, but then you could just flash with a different ROM or something and prevent that warning from being displayed?

If you could do that, you could just flash a new ROM to ignore serial errors, too. The checks are not entirely in software, and would not be in showing the error, either.

486sx33 1y ago
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areoform 1y ago

Then what stops this "counter-measure" from "working?" Could they not just "flash with a different ROM or something" to allow the part to work normally? I genuinely doubt that the level of theft ever rose to a large enough margin, if it did, Apple would have pulled out of China. For reference, Apple employs ex-NSA, CIA, TLA professionals to solve this exact problem with a near endless budget and 0 oversight and accountability. Most notably, one of the organisational leaders was caught bribing the sheriff's office for concealed carry permits, https://www.ft.com/content/e73676d7-c6bc-4b07-b9bf-9bd702f1f437 https://www.ft.com/content/e73676d7-c6bc-4b07-b9bf-9bd702f1f... / https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/29/apples_chief_security_officer_facing/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/29/apples_chief_security...

jackvalentine 1y ago
> I genuinely doubt that the level of theft ever rose to a large enough margin, if it did, Apple would have pulled out of China. There was a point where the black market in China was making more on Apple products than Apple itself. They initially tried to have stricter warranty conditions in China as a fix, but state media decided this was an affront to the country: https://www.infoworld.com/article/2271627/apple-clarifies-warranty-policy-in-china-amid-state-press-criticism-2.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2271627/apple-clarifies-wa... Hence, the technical fix. Why pull out when you can apply a technical fix and retain both access to the biggest consumer electronics market in the world and maintain the good graces of the country that manufactures almost all your products?