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Fx OS on the SGS2 runs BLAZING fast compared to the device in the video. The reason why we don't shout about that? Because we're not launching with that device

Fx OS on the SGS2 runs BLAZING fast compared to the device in the video. The reason why we don't shout about that? Because we're not launching with that device and it's not right to raise expectations in that way.

bornhuetter 14y ago
Are we going to be able to load Fx OS onto our own SGS2s when it's released?
- kibwen 14y ago
  AFAIK you can do it right this minute, if you'd like. Here's a guide for dual-booting B2G and Android on SGS2 (though I have no idea how up-to-date it is): https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gecko/Dual_boot_of_B2G_and_Android_on_SGS2 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gec...
  - bornhuetter 14y ago
    Wow, thanks. I might give this a go.
    - MatthewPhillips 14y ago
      Be warned that it doesn't work on all GS2 devices though.
      - bornhuetter 14y ago
        Do you know if it works on an original Desire?
        MatthewPhillips 14y ago
        No idea. If the Desire is a SGS2 device then it probably works. Actually, best way to find out is to see if Cyanogen supports the phone because B2G uses the Cyanogen code to pull drivers. Last time I tried (April), the T-Mobile SGS2 wasn't supported by Cyanogen (or B2G) because it significantly different internals.
JackC 14y ago
FWIW, I agree with masklinn that it's a little weird not to mention WebOS in the article. In particular when you wrote "In short, Firefox OS is about taking the technologies behind the Web, like JavaScript, and using them to produce an entire mobile operating system. Just let that sink in for a moment — it's a mobile OS powered by JavaScript!" I let that sink in back in 2009 when they announced WebOS. I was pretty excited about it. The way it crashed and burned from internal wrangling, delays, buggy releases and odd marketing was really sad. This is like you're showing up a year after the Hindenburg crashed and saying "Just let this sink in -- we've invented a rigid lighter-than-air flying machine!" That's not where we are in the conversation. The rest of the article is really exciting, and I really hope you can launch and get some traction. I agree that Mozilla is important in this space for exactly the same reasons Firefox was important when it launched. I just think it would be kind to tip your hat to WebOS along the way.
- zabraxias 14y ago
  WebOS was targeted as an Android/iOS alternative on higher-end devices using proprietary APIs. It was also being developed by a company with shareholders who were purely focused on the bottom line. I am not trying to criticize them but there are inherit differences between the two projects. I am thinking Mozilla is also partly betting its reputation of protecting user information while being developer friendly. The free market will decide of course but at least initially that free market won't be North America.

bornhuetter 14y ago

Are we going to be able to load Fx OS onto our own SGS2s when it's released?

kibwen 14y ago
AFAIK you can do it right this minute, if you'd like. Here's a guide for dual-booting B2G and Android on SGS2 (though I have no idea how up-to-date it is): https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gecko/Dual_boot_of_B2G_and_Android_on_SGS2 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gec...
- bornhuetter 14y ago
  Wow, thanks. I might give this a go.
  - MatthewPhillips 14y ago
    Be warned that it doesn't work on all GS2 devices though.
    - bornhuetter 14y ago
      Do you know if it works on an original Desire?
      - MatthewPhillips 14y ago
        No idea. If the Desire is a SGS2 device then it probably works. Actually, best way to find out is to see if Cyanogen supports the phone because B2G uses the Cyanogen code to pull drivers. Last time I tried (April), the T-Mobile SGS2 wasn't supported by Cyanogen (or B2G) because it significantly different internals.

JackC 14y ago

FWIW, I agree with masklinn that it's a little weird not to mention WebOS in the article. In particular when you wrote "In short, Firefox OS is about taking the technologies behind the Web, like JavaScript, and using them to produce an entire mobile operating system. Just let that sink in for a moment — it's a mobile OS powered by JavaScript!" I let that sink in back in 2009 when they announced WebOS. I was pretty excited about it. The way it crashed and burned from internal wrangling, delays, buggy releases and odd marketing was really sad. This is like you're showing up a year after the Hindenburg crashed and saying "Just let this sink in -- we've invented a rigid lighter-than-air flying machine!" That's not where we are in the conversation. The rest of the article is really exciting, and I really hope you can launch and get some traction. I agree that Mozilla is important in this space for exactly the same reasons Firefox was important when it launched. I just think it would be kind to tip your hat to WebOS along the way.

zabraxias 14y ago
WebOS was targeted as an Android/iOS alternative on higher-end devices using proprietary APIs. It was also being developed by a company with shareholders who were purely focused on the bottom line. I am not trying to criticize them but there are inherit differences between the two projects. I am thinking Mozilla is also partly betting its reputation of protecting user information while being developer friendly. The free market will decide of course but at least initially that free market won't be North America.