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Giving how shockingly similar Firefox OS is to webOS (now also open source), I would have much rather that they support that OS instead of reinventing the wheel

by j_col 14y ago

Giving how shockingly similar Firefox OS is to webOS (now also open source), I would have much rather that they support that OS instead of reinventing the wheel. Some strange strategic decisions coming out of Mozilla inc. these days, I would much rather see them focus on their browser instead (and Thunderbird!).

robhawkes 14y ago
You might appreciate this piece on Fx OS and WebOS: http://www.quora.com/How-does-Mozillas-Boot-2-Gecko-compare-with-webOS http://www.quora.com/How-does-Mozillas-Boot-2-Gecko-compare-...
- j_col 14y ago
  Yes I read that from your other comment, the engineer begins with: > There are many similarities Indeed. And he then goes on to admit that a new version of Enjo JS will address many of the perceived shortcomings in webOS: > This is a simplification, and I should also note that Enyo 2 (the next version of the webOS application framework, not yet released) is designed to be less platform-specific and allow Enyo apps to run on both webOS and in standard web browsers: http://enyojs.com/ http://enyojs.com/ Enyo JS 2 is now available for download: http://enyojs.com/ http://enyojs.com/ So again, why reinvent the wheel? What's the real benefit of boot-to-Gecko versus boot-to-Webkit (webOS)?
  - MatthewPhillips 14y ago
    First off, B2G started well over a year ago, when there were no signs of WebOS becoming open source (it was more likely that it would be sold). So what you're suggesting is that they either have waited or that they should have stopped working when Open WebOS was announced (even though it was just released a few weeks ago). Secondly, the existence of 2 OSes that support the same apps is not a negative; it is an overwhelming positive. Just as having multiple browsers in Windows is positive. The SysApps working group was created to standardize the (currently incompatible) APIs that exist between Firefox OS, Tizen, Chrome OS, and others. http://www.w3.org/2012/05/sysapps-wg-charter.html http://www.w3.org/2012/05/sysapps-wg-charter.html
nnethercote 14y ago
Yes, it's a shame Mozilla has completely halted desktop Firefox development in order to develop Firefox OS instead. (Wait, what's that? A company/community can work on more than one thing at a time?)
- j_col 14y ago
  > (Wait, what's that? A company/community can work on more than one thing at a time?) But that's the whole point: they're not, at least not in the case of Thunderbird. Firefox OS clearly has a higher priority for them than Thunderbird.
  - mike-cardwell 14y ago
    As far as "total users", Firefox OS has the potential to overtake Thunderbird in a matter of weeks after launch. I use Thunderbird and have done for many years. I would like to see them continue developing it. But Firefox OS is much, much more important. The World needs a free alternative to Android based on open standards.
    - j_col 14y ago
      The World already has it: http://www.openwebosproject.org/ http://www.openwebosproject.org/
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      - mike-cardwell 14y ago
        WebOS had its chance and failed. Firefox OS has a much better chance of succeeding, simply because it's backed by Mozilla.

by j_col 14y ago

robhawkes 14y ago

You might appreciate this piece on Fx OS and WebOS: http://www.quora.com/How-does-Mozillas-Boot-2-Gecko-compare-with-webOS http://www.quora.com/How-does-Mozillas-Boot-2-Gecko-compare-...

j_col 14y ago
Yes I read that from your other comment, the engineer begins with: > There are many similarities Indeed. And he then goes on to admit that a new version of Enjo JS will address many of the perceived shortcomings in webOS: > This is a simplification, and I should also note that Enyo 2 (the next version of the webOS application framework, not yet released) is designed to be less platform-specific and allow Enyo apps to run on both webOS and in standard web browsers: http://enyojs.com/ http://enyojs.com/ Enyo JS 2 is now available for download: http://enyojs.com/ http://enyojs.com/ So again, why reinvent the wheel? What's the real benefit of boot-to-Gecko versus boot-to-Webkit (webOS)?
- MatthewPhillips 14y ago
  First off, B2G started well over a year ago, when there were no signs of WebOS becoming open source (it was more likely that it would be sold). So what you're suggesting is that they either have waited or that they should have stopped working when Open WebOS was announced (even though it was just released a few weeks ago). Secondly, the existence of 2 OSes that support the same apps is not a negative; it is an overwhelming positive. Just as having multiple browsers in Windows is positive. The SysApps working group was created to standardize the (currently incompatible) APIs that exist between Firefox OS, Tizen, Chrome OS, and others. http://www.w3.org/2012/05/sysapps-wg-charter.html http://www.w3.org/2012/05/sysapps-wg-charter.html

nnethercote 14y ago

Yes, it's a shame Mozilla has completely halted desktop Firefox development in order to develop Firefox OS instead. (Wait, what's that? A company/community can work on more than one thing at a time?)

j_col 14y ago
> (Wait, what's that? A company/community can work on more than one thing at a time?) But that's the whole point: they're not, at least not in the case of Thunderbird. Firefox OS clearly has a higher priority for them than Thunderbird.
- mike-cardwell 14y ago
  As far as "total users", Firefox OS has the potential to overtake Thunderbird in a matter of weeks after launch. I use Thunderbird and have done for many years. I would like to see them continue developing it. But Firefox OS is much, much more important. The World needs a free alternative to Android based on open standards.
  - j_col 14y ago
    The World already has it: http://www.openwebosproject.org/ http://www.openwebosproject.org/
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    - mike-cardwell 14y ago
      WebOS had its chance and failed. Firefox OS has a much better chance of succeeding, simply because it's backed by Mozilla.