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This thread is a bit muddled since it’s mixing talk of citizen (not required to carry ID) and non-citizen (required, but cannot be stopped without reasonable su
by acdha 1y ago
This thread is a bit muddled since it’s mixing talk of citizen (not required to carry ID) and non-citizen (required, but cannot be stopped without reasonable suspicion outside of border areas and has the right to remain silent: i.e. ICE can’t go to a stadium and demand over the PA that everyone volunteer status) rights, and I think some of my comments about the former were confused with the latter. In any case, don’t trust me when you can get an actual lawyer’s summary:
https://internationalservices.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs6431/files/2025-04/KYR.pdf https://internationalservices.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs64...
> immediately rejecting government data because it violates your desired world view is childish, especially when there's no reason to doubt it.
You appear to have confused me with someone else. That said, given both the highly politicized climate and the many recent examples of claims being dropped or falling apart in court, I think it’s prudent to only trust things defended in a court of law. It’s certainly plausible that there was a tip about immigration fraud which meant that they had clear cause for stopping people but it also wouldn’t be surprising if people under intense pressure to hit quotas made some bad calls. I’m sure that many of the numbers they report are valid - large chunks of the economy depend on foreign labor - but expect the final numbers will be substantially lower.