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Europe enters the exascale supercomputing league with Jupiter
- convolvatron 1y agosomething with a little more technical detail: https://www.fz-juelich.de/en/ias/jsc/jupiter/tech https://www.fz-juelich.de/en/ias/jsc/jupiter/tech looks like its just a big Nvidia installation. IB, Ceph, K8s, H100s
- bayindirh 1y agoIf that’s “so simple”, why we don’t see everyone “just” doing the same?
- BrouteMinou 1y agoIt might just be expensive... Some other countries might just not need those when they are struggling to get fresh water... And so on, but that's just my 2 cents.
- wqweto 1y agoEurope is not a country.
- liotier 1y agoFederal Europe is a proto-country - and we are already citizens of the European Union. In short: Europe is my country !
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- BrouteMinou 1y ago"Everyone" doesn't apply just to continents, isn't it?
- dotnet00 1y agoTo be fair, being "just" a big Nvidia installation doesn't really mean that it's "so simple" (person you're replying to didn't claim it was simple), considering that every "Nvidia installation" has a slightly different set of factors like node count, per node memory, CPU choice, and networking configuration. All it says is, like many (most?) other modern supercomputers, it's a giant NVIDIA GPU cluster.
- ofrzeta 1y ago> a 21 Petabyte Flash Module (ExaFLASH) is provided based on the IBM Storage Scale Nice. How much does this cost? > The scratch storage is based on 20 IBM Storage Scale 6000 systems utilizing NVMe disk technology, based on the IBM Storage Scale solution. With 29 PB of raw and 21 PB of useable capacity That's also a lot of waste, isn't it?
- conception 1y agoWith 29 PB of raw and 21 PB of useable capacity. RAID gonna RAID.
- poisonborz 1y agoDon't know why your're downvoted, this is valid criticism. EU just bought 500 mil worth of hardware from the US, no specific European innovation, apart from system management (ParTec Italy). But would be happy to be proven otherwise.
- frodo8sam 1y agoWho exactly were you going to buy equipment from? AMD/Nvidia/Intel are the only players in town.
- themgt 1y agoChina with SMIC and Huawei's Ascend 910C would be an example of what you do if you want to pursue strategic autonomy. It's like asking "who exactly were you going to buy a 6th generation fighter from?"
- timlatim 1y agoWithout questioning this idea on political grounds, I am not sure if it would be at all possible for an Ascend 910C cluster to enter the supercomputer rankings. I could not find a public datasheet on this chip (would appreciate a link), but my impression is that it is an AI accelerator that does not target FP64, whereas TOP500 is looking at HPC (FP64) performance [1]. [1] https://top500.org/resources/frequently-asked-questions/ https://top500.org/resources/frequently-asked-questions/
- standardUser 1y agoUntil a year ago, few thought there would ever be a need for Europe to have strategic autonomy from the US in an area that was already solved by trade agreements. Presumably this project was conceived long before that.
- mrtksn 1y agoIt was probably more like system designed in Europe, made in China, assembled in Europe thing. Sure, the HQ of the core component(Nvidia) is incorporated in US but that too is a multinational effort.
- zkmon 1y ago"With JUPITER, Europe becomes the home of the most powerful computer in Europe" -- Henna Virkkunen What does that mean?
- jerf 1y agoMy guess is that it means that not only does "Henna Virkkunen, Executive Vice-President for Tech Sovereignty, Security and Democracy" write her quotes with AI without reading them carefully, but that she's also doing it with an older model.
- pona-a 1y agoMaybe they wanted to say “with [JUPITER, Europe],” as in “CERN, Switzerland.” This would still be unnecessary and confusing, but that’s the most sense I can make of it.
- vjvjvjvjghv 1y agoI am assuming before JUPITER the most powerful computer in Europe was not at home in Europe?
- shreddit 1y agoTo quote zefrank: The tallest giraffe is taller than all other giraffes
- bprew 1y agoI took it to mean that the controller of the most powerful computer in Europe is Europe, as opposed to Apple or Google or another private entity.
- wvbdmp 1y agoI think it’s pretty clear if you read the rest of the sentence, which you’ve omitted: “and the fourth most powerful in the world”. If she hadn’t said “in Europe”, the whole top 3 might be in Europe as well.
- johnfn 1y agoI mean, it's a straightforward enough statement. But what was happening in Europe before..?
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- araes 1y agoFrom the add I did over on WP Current Events, based on the June preliminary system test (data from Top 500 https://top500.org/lists/top500/2025/06/ https://top500.org/lists/top500/2025/06/): "It is currently being commissioned and has achieved a preliminary HPL value of 793.4 Petaflop/s on a partial system." Top 500 Rank: 4 (behind El Capitan, Frontier, and Aurora at the DOE) System Config: JUPITER Booster - BullSequana XH3000, GH Superchip 72C 3GHz, NVIDIA GH200 Superchip, Quad-Rail NVIDIA InfiniBand NDR200, RedHat Enterprise Linux Manufacturer: EVIDEN https://eviden.com/solutions/high-performance-computing/hpc-solutions/ https://eviden.com/solutions/high-performance-computing/hpc-... Location: EuroHPC/FZJ, Germany https://www.fz-juelich.de/en/ias/jsc/jupiter https://www.fz-juelich.de/en/ias/jsc/jupiter Cores: 4,801,344 Rmax (PFlop/s) / Rpeak (PFlop/s): 793.40 / 930.00 Power (kW): 13,088
- dr_dshiv 1y agoHonest question: what will likely be done with a computer like this?
- thegreatpeter 1y agoFind websites that don’t properly handle GDPR
- valkmit 1y agoThis cracked me up, I'm absolutely dying
- globalnode 1y agocrack passwords?
- notrealyme123 1y agoLooks like a research cluster. Universities / their Researcher can apply for reasources instead of setting up own hardware.
- Zyten 1y agoQuite a varied field of research. From Computer Science and Neuroscience to Climate Research and more. You can find an overview for some of the HPC systems here: https://www.fz-juelich.de/en/ias/jsc/systems/supercomputers/user-research-fields-distribution https://www.fz-juelich.de/en/ias/jsc/systems/supercomputers/...
- Rover222 1y agoHow do the gpu training clusters rank against the traditional “largest supercomputer” metric? Or is that comparing apples to oranges? I think by some measures XAi already has the largest (200k H100 equivalent) and already constructing the 1 million gpu cluster.
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- pjmlp 1y agoThe actual technical details, https://www.fz-juelich.de/en/ias/jsc/jupiter/tech https://www.fz-juelich.de/en/ias/jsc/jupiter/tech