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Right? Prices skyrocketed for all cars after COVID and never came down. At least some manufacturers have seen a pretty big increase in quality lately (Kia). Can

Right? Prices skyrocketed for all cars after COVID and never came down. At least some manufacturers have seen a pretty big increase in quality lately (Kia). Can’t say the same for our domestic manufacturers tbh. I wonder how much of this language is just anti-Chinese. “Slumping” costs for price decreases. Whatever the outcome, it’s clear I’d much rather prefer to be purchasing a car in China than America at the moment. Probably nicer roads to drive on, too, if I’m being honest.

Fade_Dance 1y ago
>Prices skyrocketed for all cars after COVID Along with everything else, because of inflation. Ex: New Chevy Trax is within $1k of a 2011 Ford Focus MSRP, and considerably lower than something like a 2011 Ford Fusion sedan MSRP inflation adjusted. Americans do not buy econo-models. Chevy Spark, Nissan Versa, Mitsubishi Mirage, list goes on. Almost all of them had bad sales numbers, and most are now gone from the market because of that. I am of the opposite opinion, and think that the latest wave of cheap compact crossovers is by far the best entry level offering from US companies in years. Heck, even Buick is doing well with the Envista. I'm definitely target market (drive a sub 100hp asian compact no longer offered in US markets), and honestly think the new 3cyl Trax is actually an appealing cheap little vehicle, which I never would have considered before from a US manufacturer.
- SilverElfin 1y ago
  Are there any cars left under 20k?
  - linotype 1y ago
    At some point there will be no car for sale less than $50k. Without factoring in inflation, price is meaningless.
- jwilber 1y ago
  In one year alone, used car prices rose over 40%. That market has not corrected itself since then. That is not as simple to dismiss as, “prices rise everywhere: inflation.” https://www.collegecounts529.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/October-2021-Market-Alert.pdf https://www.collegecounts529.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/... https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/used-car-prices-have-surged-so-far-in-2025-062725.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/used-car-prices-have-su...
linotype 1y ago
It’s not “Anti-Chinese”. If Australia subsidized their car sector and exported a bunch of cars at a purchase price less than the cost to make a car in the US, the complaint would be the same.

Fade_Dance 1y ago

>Prices skyrocketed for all cars after COVID Along with everything else, because of inflation. Ex: New Chevy Trax is within $1k of a 2011 Ford Focus MSRP, and considerably lower than something like a 2011 Ford Fusion sedan MSRP inflation adjusted. Americans do not buy econo-models. Chevy Spark, Nissan Versa, Mitsubishi Mirage, list goes on. Almost all of them had bad sales numbers, and most are now gone from the market because of that. I am of the opposite opinion, and think that the latest wave of cheap compact crossovers is by far the best entry level offering from US companies in years. Heck, even Buick is doing well with the Envista. I'm definitely target market (drive a sub 100hp asian compact no longer offered in US markets), and honestly think the new 3cyl Trax is actually an appealing cheap little vehicle, which I never would have considered before from a US manufacturer.

SilverElfin 1y ago
Are there any cars left under 20k?
- linotype 1y ago
  At some point there will be no car for sale less than $50k. Without factoring in inflation, price is meaningless.
jwilber 1y ago
In one year alone, used car prices rose over 40%. That market has not corrected itself since then. That is not as simple to dismiss as, “prices rise everywhere: inflation.” https://www.collegecounts529.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/October-2021-Market-Alert.pdf https://www.collegecounts529.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/... https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/used-car-prices-have-surged-so-far-in-2025-062725.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/used-car-prices-have-su...

linotype 1y ago

It’s not “Anti-Chinese”. If Australia subsidized their car sector and exported a bunch of cars at a purchase price less than the cost to make a car in the US, the complaint would be the same.