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Most of the pro Palestinians will first complain about the innocent casualties but then follow up with assertions such as Israel shouldn't exist I don't believe

Most of the pro Palestinians will first complain about the innocent casualties but then follow up with assertions such as Israel shouldn't exist I don't believe in two state coexistence. So they are all burying the lede it isn't about the innocent casualties that so much as the side they belong to. In a fight between two equally ruthless opponents I'm not going to whole heartedly support one or the other. I hope the fighting stops and innocents can rebuild their lives.. however this bland universal statement would incense many people

dttze 1y ago
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- darepublic 1y ago
  They mean it in a completely different way. They want no Israelis to be living in that area, not a change of regime. And all this predates Oct 7 of course.
  - netsharc 1y ago
    If some extremist Americans say "Country X should be eradicated", can that country carpet-bomb America?". Let's say X = Greenland. (yeah yeah it's not a country, and humor me about Greenland's ability to commit genocide...). I'd wager what the average Palestinian wanted/wants was to enjoy lives and freedoms with at worst bird poop falling from the sky and not Raytheon's newest GBU model, but if your neighboring state terrorizes you with little impunity for 70 years, would you not cheer on when some of your community fires back at them? And some other community members might even cower in fear because they know the revenge will come worse, but of course the foreign media will mostly show the people cheering and the commenters on social media will describe your community as "all blood-thirsty genocidal killers".. and blame your religion for it.
ath3nd 1y ago
> with assertions such as Israel shouldn't exist A state committing genocide shouldn't exist. We disbanded Nazi Germany, the same should happen to the genocidal Zionist Israeli state. At this very moment we have witnessed: - the targeting of journalists (war crime) - starving of the civilian population (war crime) - bombing hospitals (war crime) - targeting of children (war crime) - shooting humanitarian aid seekers (war crime) - illegally settling land that belongs to Palestine and forcing its rightful owners out off it (war crime) All these war crimes together are what makes what Israel is doing a genocide. And the leading experts on genocide agree: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cde3eyzdr63o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cde3eyzdr63o Israel has shown repeatedly that it cant stop genociding, so it has the same amount of right to exist as Nazi Germany: zero. Either stop the genocide or perish.
dudefeliciano 1y ago
> Israel shouldn't exist in it's current form > innocents can rebuild their lives one in a concentration camp, having lost most of their family, the other in a "liberal democracy" partying at raves on the border with that concentration camp.

dttze 1y ago

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darepublic 1y ago
They mean it in a completely different way. They want no Israelis to be living in that area, not a change of regime. And all this predates Oct 7 of course.
- netsharc 1y ago
  If some extremist Americans say "Country X should be eradicated", can that country carpet-bomb America?". Let's say X = Greenland. (yeah yeah it's not a country, and humor me about Greenland's ability to commit genocide...). I'd wager what the average Palestinian wanted/wants was to enjoy lives and freedoms with at worst bird poop falling from the sky and not Raytheon's newest GBU model, but if your neighboring state terrorizes you with little impunity for 70 years, would you not cheer on when some of your community fires back at them? And some other community members might even cower in fear because they know the revenge will come worse, but of course the foreign media will mostly show the people cheering and the commenters on social media will describe your community as "all blood-thirsty genocidal killers".. and blame your religion for it.

ath3nd 1y ago

> with assertions such as Israel shouldn't exist A state committing genocide shouldn't exist. We disbanded Nazi Germany, the same should happen to the genocidal Zionist Israeli state. At this very moment we have witnessed: - the targeting of journalists (war crime) - starving of the civilian population (war crime) - bombing hospitals (war crime) - targeting of children (war crime) - shooting humanitarian aid seekers (war crime) - illegally settling land that belongs to Palestine and forcing its rightful owners out off it (war crime) All these war crimes together are what makes what Israel is doing a genocide. And the leading experts on genocide agree: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cde3eyzdr63o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cde3eyzdr63o Israel has shown repeatedly that it cant stop genociding, so it has the same amount of right to exist as Nazi Germany: zero. Either stop the genocide or perish.

dudefeliciano 1y ago

> Israel shouldn't exist in it's current form > innocents can rebuild their lives one in a concentration camp, having lost most of their family, the other in a "liberal democracy" partying at raves on the border with that concentration camp.