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One big difference is that Vim has been a de facto standard for a very long time, and it's ubiquitous - you can trust just about any server to have vim installe

One big difference is that Vim has been a de facto standard for a very long time, and it's ubiquitous - you can trust just about any server to have vim installed - so the investment to learn it has a much more guaranteed pay-off.

dantiberian 14y ago
Unless you work in an all windows environment :(
- shousper 14y ago
  My condolences. I know your pain.
dkd 14y ago
Solaris has only vi. Not vim. :-)
atsaloli 14y ago
I agree. In fact, vi is a standard UNIX utility - see the POSIX-1.2008 specification: http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/vi.html#tag_20_152 http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/vi... vim is the most popular implementation of vi, with lots of added bells and whistles I'd say learn vi first; then learn the vim bells and whistles. I have resources for learning vi at http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi.htm http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi.htm I'm really into improving efficiency and I enjoy teaching people how to use vi. The class materials are publicly available and are based on Bill Joy's original paper introducing vi: Basic vi: http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi/class/ http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi/class/ Advanced vi: http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi/class/advanced.html http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi/class/advanced.html My next vi class will be in Columbus, Ohio at Ohio Linux Fest in a couple of weeks (http://ohiolinux.org/olfi2012/classes/editing-with-vi http://ohiolinux.org/olfi2012/classes/editing-with-vi)
- slurgfest 14y ago
  There is rarely any point learning vi if you are only ever going to use vim. (On many systems, vi is just a symlink to vim anyway). If I had a nickel for every time someone justified not using vim's features by invoking a bizarre imaginary scenario where they were using vi to twiddle bits on a downed snowflake machine, I could buy a few fancy coffees.

dantiberian 14y ago

Unless you work in an all windows environment :(

shousper 14y ago
My condolences. I know your pain.

dkd 14y ago

Solaris has only vi. Not vim. :-)

atsaloli 14y ago

I agree. In fact, vi is a standard UNIX utility - see the POSIX-1.2008 specification: http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/vi.html#tag_20_152 http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/vi... vim is the most popular implementation of vi, with lots of added bells and whistles I'd say learn vi first; then learn the vim bells and whistles. I have resources for learning vi at http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi.htm http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi.htm I'm really into improving efficiency and I enjoy teaching people how to use vi. The class materials are publicly available and are based on Bill Joy's original paper introducing vi: Basic vi: http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi/class/ http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi/class/ Advanced vi: http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi/class/advanced.html http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi/class/advanced.html My next vi class will be in Columbus, Ohio at Ohio Linux Fest in a couple of weeks (http://ohiolinux.org/olfi2012/classes/editing-with-vi http://ohiolinux.org/olfi2012/classes/editing-with-vi)

slurgfest 14y ago
There is rarely any point learning vi if you are only ever going to use vim. (On many systems, vi is just a symlink to vim anyway). If I had a nickel for every time someone justified not using vim's features by invoking a bizarre imaginary scenario where they were using vi to twiddle bits on a downed snowflake machine, I could buy a few fancy coffees.