> Similar to how people that keep cars around for 10+ years are stuck with dated and worthless 'infotainment' systems, Google and Ecobee can't even honor their

> Similar to how people that keep cars around for 10+ years are stuck with dated and worthless 'infotainment' systems, Google and Ecobee can't even honor their product for long enough to outlast the HVAC units I would never buy a car that doesn’t support CarPlay. The four protocols that Apple created to interface with non Apple devices - the original iPod protocol, AirPrint, AirPlay and CarPlay haven’t had any breaking changes. As of at least three years ago, I could use an old first gen iPad from 2010 (the first to support AirPlay/Airprint) and use it with modern Roku TVs with AirPlay support and modern printers. My old 2011 Sonic that I had with a USB port that supported the iPod protocol for displaying titles for audio and controlling iPods still worked with every iPhone I had. But I would never trust Google not to kill a device.