> so the anti-vibe-coding people feel like they need to claim that development speed has no impact at all Strange, I'd been more of the impression that this is

> so the anti-vibe-coding people feel like they need to claim that development speed has no impact at all Strange, I'd been more of the impression that this is an argument from pro vibe-coders. As more data comes in, the "productivity increases" of AI are not showing up as expected. So as people question, how come things are not getting done faster even though you say you are 10x faster at coding? The vibe-coders answer by saying that coding isn't the bottleneck, as opposed to capitulating and saying that maybe they're not that much faster at coding after-all.