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Not at all. It's traffic that is completely below ground which means that no streets above are burdened with it, it's all electric so no emissions. Name me any

Not at all. It's traffic that is completely below ground which means that no streets above are burdened with it, it's all electric so no emissions. Name me any other form of transportation that was built so affordably in the US and moves this many people while not impacting street traffic? By comparison the Vegas Monorail cost 5x as much, took 1/3rd longer to build, and takes roughly a third of the passengers that the Boring tunnel does. This is a huge win for Las Vegas, and they continue to build out because it's worked out well for them.

guax 1y ago
> It's traffic that is completely below ground which means that no streets above are burdened with it, it's all electric so no emissions So are modern subways. Cost is a major point tho, subways are designed to move waaaaay more than 30k people a day for much less, but costs of building are much higher. This is only 1.7 miles and a novelty, I would not know If the differences hold for Tesla on other places or when scaling up. My suspicious is that it does not. I also wonder that if you use the same tunnel they did but modify the cars to run by themselves using traditional techniques, would the operation get cheaper but the shortcomings be more glaring.
- DoesntMatter22 1y ago
  Vegas now has 5 stations and is 2.2 miles. Can you realistically compare it to a billion dollar a mile sub at line that would take a decade to build (or more)? 30k a day is a nearly a million a month and costs are low by comparison (no expensive subway cars etc).
  - Larrikin 1y ago
    This is nothing compared to Tokyo Metro, or even the New York subway. Stop comparing failures to other failures like they are successes.
    - DoesntMatter22 1y ago
      You are comparing the Vegas loop to a tunnel in Tokyo the biggest metro on earth. That's like saying a car is slow because it's not a spaceship.
      - Larrikin 1y ago
        Can you cite that Tokyo is the biggest metro?
        DoesntMatter22 1y ago
        When I say metro I'm talking about metropolitan area not the subway. Tokyo has 37 million people so it's comical to compare it las vegas which has less than 700k. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities
Ekaros 1y ago
Have you actually looked what some of their extensions look like? Please go look at Encore station on Vegas Loop. And come back telling me it is below ground... And that is not only place. Overall it looks like right mess. Including very scalable solutions like single tunnels to some stations...

guax 1y ago

> It's traffic that is completely below ground which means that no streets above are burdened with it, it's all electric so no emissions So are modern subways. Cost is a major point tho, subways are designed to move waaaaay more than 30k people a day for much less, but costs of building are much higher. This is only 1.7 miles and a novelty, I would not know If the differences hold for Tesla on other places or when scaling up. My suspicious is that it does not. I also wonder that if you use the same tunnel they did but modify the cars to run by themselves using traditional techniques, would the operation get cheaper but the shortcomings be more glaring.

DoesntMatter22 1y ago
Vegas now has 5 stations and is 2.2 miles. Can you realistically compare it to a billion dollar a mile sub at line that would take a decade to build (or more)? 30k a day is a nearly a million a month and costs are low by comparison (no expensive subway cars etc).
- Larrikin 1y ago
  This is nothing compared to Tokyo Metro, or even the New York subway. Stop comparing failures to other failures like they are successes.
  - DoesntMatter22 1y ago
    You are comparing the Vegas loop to a tunnel in Tokyo the biggest metro on earth. That's like saying a car is slow because it's not a spaceship.
    - Larrikin 1y ago
      Can you cite that Tokyo is the biggest metro?
      - DoesntMatter22 1y ago
        When I say metro I'm talking about metropolitan area not the subway. Tokyo has 37 million people so it's comical to compare it las vegas which has less than 700k. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities

Ekaros 1y ago

Have you actually looked what some of their extensions look like? Please go look at Encore station on Vegas Loop. And come back telling me it is below ground... And that is not only place. Overall it looks like right mess. Including very scalable solutions like single tunnels to some stations...