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Stocks and company value haven't been tied to reality in years. Tesla could completely cease production and say they're getting in the puppy kicking industry a

Stocks and company value haven't been tied to reality in years. Tesla could completely cease production and say they're getting in the puppy kicking industry and their stock prices wouldn't fall a bit. They might even skyrocket.

DoesntMatter22 1y ago
The company still is making good profit, has low debt and has possible revolutionary products ahead. You may hate them but they are still doing well
- bdangubic 1y ago
  they do well for a real stock price of roughly $48/share. it is not “hate” to state something that is obvious to anyone but Elon fanboys(girls).
  - DoesntMatter22 1y ago
    I didn't say it's hate. I said that they may hate him. There's a difference. Considering Tesla is doing great compared to other companies like BYD who are their biggest worldwide competitor and they are hemmoraging money
    - bdangubic 1y ago
      BYD does not have P/E ratio of 8967 like TSLA though
      - DoesntMatter22 1y ago
        Tesla has a PE of 207.60
        NaomiLehman 1y ago
        That's a disastrous P/E ratio
        DoesntMatter22 1y ago
        Maybe you'd prefer Rivians PE of infinity instead?
        NaomiLehman 1y ago
        Apples and oranges. :>
        DoesntMatter22 1y ago
        Please show me any American car company that has a technology and future potential to Tesla does.
        NaomiLehman 1y ago
        None, just like in most industries. That includes Tesla.
        DoesntMatter22 1y ago
        Completely wrong
        NaomiLehman 1y ago
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- forgotoldacc 1y ago
  Apparently their profit is a couple billion, market share is dropping, [1] and they've promised revolutionary products without delivering for a decade now. A multitrillion dollar valuation for a company in decline that fails to deliver innovative or quality products, and a trillion for a dude driving it into the ground, is an interesting quirk of 2010s-2020s economics. [1] https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/downloads/TSLA-Q2-2025-Update.pdf https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/downloads/TSLA-Q2-...
  - DoesntMatter22 1y ago
    Still profitable while other competitors are losing money like BYD and a bunch of traditional gas manufacturers. They have already released multiple revolutionary products including the first real electric car and then the model y which is the best selling car in the world. Tough economic situation for a car manufacturer. If you consider running a profitable company during a tough situation and unprecedented tariffs to be "driving into the ground" that's up to you. Considering Ford and everyone else is absolutely getting clobbered in electric vehicles I do find that comical
- HAL3000 1y ago
  > possible revolutionary products ahead. Which products? EVs are a commodity. Self driving technology is better at Waymo, and in China, the latest Huawei version of self driving, installed in Avatar cars, is on par with Tesla’s and even better in some cases. What’s left? The Optimus robot? Unitree from China and Boston Dynamics (owned by Toyota), are ahead of Tesla. Not to mention the hundreds of startups in China working on the same thing, all using essentially the same transformer based architecture with only minor tweaks. There’s no moat this time. What Tesla still excels at is marketing and hype, but even that has its limits.
  - DoesntMatter22 1y ago
    Basically everything you said here is completely untrue
    - HAL3000 1y ago
      That's quite the counterargument. Care to back it up with anything more than "you're wrong"? Right now this reads more like a dismissal than a rebuttal.
      - DoesntMatter22 1y ago
        So much is wrong. First of all Boston Dynamics is owned by Hyundai not Toyota. How many cars in the US is haiwei self driving in right now? How many robots is Boston Dynamics selling? You are arguing that vaporware is better than what Tesla has.
- cedws 1y ago
  I’m sure they’ll deliver those revolutionary products just like they delivered on Dojo, Solar Roofs, Roadster, Semi, robotaxis…
  - DoesntMatter22 1y ago
    They have working robotaxis, semis, and are selling solar roofs currently
snapplebobapple 1y ago
Well, you have to admit that that is atleast a growth industry. Pretty easy to achieve a thousand fold growth in puppy kicking. Who knows how big the puppy kicking market could eventually be?!?

DoesntMatter22 1y ago

The company still is making good profit, has low debt and has possible revolutionary products ahead. You may hate them but they are still doing well

bdangubic 1y ago
they do well for a real stock price of roughly $48/share. it is not “hate” to state something that is obvious to anyone but Elon fanboys(girls).
- DoesntMatter22 1y ago
  I didn't say it's hate. I said that they may hate him. There's a difference. Considering Tesla is doing great compared to other companies like BYD who are their biggest worldwide competitor and they are hemmoraging money
  - bdangubic 1y ago
    BYD does not have P/E ratio of 8967 like TSLA though
    - DoesntMatter22 1y ago
      Tesla has a PE of 207.60
      - NaomiLehman 1y ago
        That's a disastrous P/E ratio
        DoesntMatter22 1y ago
        Maybe you'd prefer Rivians PE of infinity instead?
        NaomiLehman 1y ago
        Apples and oranges. :>
        DoesntMatter22 1y ago
        Please show me any American car company that has a technology and future potential to Tesla does.
        NaomiLehman 1y ago
        None, just like in most industries. That includes Tesla.
        DoesntMatter22 1y ago
        Completely wrong
        NaomiLehman 1y ago
        [flagged]
forgotoldacc 1y ago
Apparently their profit is a couple billion, market share is dropping, [1] and they've promised revolutionary products without delivering for a decade now. A multitrillion dollar valuation for a company in decline that fails to deliver innovative or quality products, and a trillion for a dude driving it into the ground, is an interesting quirk of 2010s-2020s economics. [1] https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/downloads/TSLA-Q2-2025-Update.pdf https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/downloads/TSLA-Q2-...
- DoesntMatter22 1y ago
  Still profitable while other competitors are losing money like BYD and a bunch of traditional gas manufacturers. They have already released multiple revolutionary products including the first real electric car and then the model y which is the best selling car in the world. Tough economic situation for a car manufacturer. If you consider running a profitable company during a tough situation and unprecedented tariffs to be "driving into the ground" that's up to you. Considering Ford and everyone else is absolutely getting clobbered in electric vehicles I do find that comical
HAL3000 1y ago
> possible revolutionary products ahead. Which products? EVs are a commodity. Self driving technology is better at Waymo, and in China, the latest Huawei version of self driving, installed in Avatar cars, is on par with Tesla’s and even better in some cases. What’s left? The Optimus robot? Unitree from China and Boston Dynamics (owned by Toyota), are ahead of Tesla. Not to mention the hundreds of startups in China working on the same thing, all using essentially the same transformer based architecture with only minor tweaks. There’s no moat this time. What Tesla still excels at is marketing and hype, but even that has its limits.
- DoesntMatter22 1y ago
  Basically everything you said here is completely untrue
  - HAL3000 1y ago
    That's quite the counterargument. Care to back it up with anything more than "you're wrong"? Right now this reads more like a dismissal than a rebuttal.
    - DoesntMatter22 1y ago
      So much is wrong. First of all Boston Dynamics is owned by Hyundai not Toyota. How many cars in the US is haiwei self driving in right now? How many robots is Boston Dynamics selling? You are arguing that vaporware is better than what Tesla has.
cedws 1y ago
I’m sure they’ll deliver those revolutionary products just like they delivered on Dojo, Solar Roofs, Roadster, Semi, robotaxis…
- DoesntMatter22 1y ago
  They have working robotaxis, semis, and are selling solar roofs currently

snapplebobapple 1y ago

Well, you have to admit that that is atleast a growth industry. Pretty easy to achieve a thousand fold growth in puppy kicking. Who knows how big the puppy kicking market could eventually be?!?