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This has to be a bit. You can't possibly believe Musk's fantasies after a couple decades of hilarious (and occasionally dangerous) lies.

xNeil 1y ago
>You can't possibly believe Musk's fantasies after a couple decades of hilarious (and occasionally dangerous) lies. Eh, betting against Musk generally seems to be a losing proposition. Starlink alone would have given me faith in his abilities, what Tesla's done with Models 3 and Y and SpaceX with Falcon 9 gives me all the more reason to believe him. Yes, despite the absurd timelines, which I'm generally okay with. (Not OP)
- freerobby 1y ago
  People never learn. The haters always think this time will be different.
- general1465 1y ago
  Like 10 years of promises of Full Self Driving which does not drive itself.
- Esophagus4 1y ago
  I happen to agree with you but for different reasons. I will never bet on Musk, but I’m also not dumb enough to bet against him, given TSLA’s stock growth. The board has set a wild target for him before, and he hit it. It’s too easy to say “he’ll never achieve that!” from the comfort of an armchair internet comment. Ok, if you really believe that, step up to the line and place your bets. Because if you don’t believe it enough to put money on it, you probably don’t believe it that much.
  - throwmeaway222 1y ago
    > I happen to agree with you but for different reasons. You literally echoed his reasons, not sure why you said this.
    - Esophagus4 1y ago
      (Eyeroll) I didn’t feel like I needed to state my disagreements because I felt like they weren’t relevant enough to spend time on. So I agreed with his point that I’m not betting against Musk, but left out the reasons. But leave it to the pedantic internet commenters to take issue with even a minor inconsistency. I promise to do better next time, thank you for your feedback. I know I’ll make you proud one day, dad.
      - cindyllm 1y ago
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throwmeaway222 1y ago
MDS (Musk Derangement...) I'm not trying to insult you, but think about this. Musk has a reputation of actually delivering on the things he showcases- Cybertruck is real, it also failed, but he delivered it. Starlink is real, and it is winning spectacularly and probably has saved countless Ukrainian lives at this point. Yes FSD is not there yet, but I can pretty much guarantee you that it will be the first car that (is not a taxi) that has it. And breaking apart my own statement slowly for you: Tesla robot will be the most advanced consumer grade product ever made ^ product ^ will have vision, grip, communication, ability to agentically think and perform physical tasks ^ Yes it is "a consumer grade product" that will literally not have real viable competition for a while So please stop with the MDS so we can actually discuss the REALITY of the world.

xNeil 1y ago

>You can't possibly believe Musk's fantasies after a couple decades of hilarious (and occasionally dangerous) lies. Eh, betting against Musk generally seems to be a losing proposition. Starlink alone would have given me faith in his abilities, what Tesla's done with Models 3 and Y and SpaceX with Falcon 9 gives me all the more reason to believe him. Yes, despite the absurd timelines, which I'm generally okay with. (Not OP)

freerobby 1y ago
People never learn. The haters always think this time will be different.
general1465 1y ago
Like 10 years of promises of Full Self Driving which does not drive itself.
Esophagus4 1y ago
I happen to agree with you but for different reasons. I will never bet on Musk, but I’m also not dumb enough to bet against him, given TSLA’s stock growth. The board has set a wild target for him before, and he hit it. It’s too easy to say “he’ll never achieve that!” from the comfort of an armchair internet comment. Ok, if you really believe that, step up to the line and place your bets. Because if you don’t believe it enough to put money on it, you probably don’t believe it that much.
- throwmeaway222 1y ago
  > I happen to agree with you but for different reasons. You literally echoed his reasons, not sure why you said this.
  - Esophagus4 1y ago
    (Eyeroll) I didn’t feel like I needed to state my disagreements because I felt like they weren’t relevant enough to spend time on. So I agreed with his point that I’m not betting against Musk, but left out the reasons. But leave it to the pedantic internet commenters to take issue with even a minor inconsistency. I promise to do better next time, thank you for your feedback. I know I’ll make you proud one day, dad.
    - cindyllm 1y ago
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throwmeaway222 1y ago

MDS (Musk Derangement...) I'm not trying to insult you, but think about this. Musk has a reputation of actually delivering on the things he showcases- Cybertruck is real, it also failed, but he delivered it. Starlink is real, and it is winning spectacularly and probably has saved countless Ukrainian lives at this point. Yes FSD is not there yet, but I can pretty much guarantee you that it will be the first car that (is not a taxi) that has it. And breaking apart my own statement slowly for you: Tesla robot will be the most advanced consumer grade product ever made ^ product ^ will have vision, grip, communication, ability to agentically think and perform physical tasks ^ Yes it is "a consumer grade product" that will literally not have real viable competition for a while So please stop with the MDS so we can actually discuss the REALITY of the world.