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Why is online porn harmful to children? most people grow up fine with it

by ozgrakkurt 1y ago

gjsman-1000 1y ago
If social media is harmful to children, there's no way porn isn't.
QuercusMax 1y ago
There's a huge variety of super messed up stuff available online.
- ajsnigrutin 1y ago
  Yeah... like someone cutting half his hand off to show he's a robot underneath... after many people were killed in that movie. Hey, they even marketed the toys to kids. Same for many other movies from that era.
  - mystraline 1y ago
    Yes, and if I had listened to children's shows when I grew up, I could blow up my enemies with ACME explosives, or drop them off cliffs, or fire high power rifles, and dispose of my enemies. Oh wait. That was Hanna Barbera, Disney, Looney Tunes, and the like. Later childhood after watching the re-re-repeats of 1960's shows, was learning about hatred, racism, and what the 'normies' would do to you, no matter what you did or didn't do. And, Magneto was right.
animal_spirits 1y ago
Lot's of internet porn is either real or simulated abuse. I'm not an expert but based on anecdotal experience abuse kinks are largely related to some history of abuse or trauma experienced by the individual. I think it's fine for adults to have these kinks and explore their sexuality but exposing it to children can normalize sexual abuse among youths, which again I am close with someone who's had a personal experience with this.
- mdp2021 1y ago
  But what do you mean with "can". Children are exposed to liars, to fools, to the stupid, to the unwise, to the corrupted in malice, to the weak in will... Since a very young age. «Exposing» such frequent faults to children does not «normalize» it. It may, if the child is in a generally bad environment - but then, the target is the core environment, not the outer experience.
  - animal_spirits 1y ago
    Yes there are "bad" things children can be exposed to. But the difference is the lifelong real trauma caused by sexual abuse. Yes kids can learn lying from the internet, or see people smoking, etc. But if you are a pre-teen that sexually abuses another pre-teen (which happens _very_ common surprisingly) it has an enormous capacity for harm compared to other "bad" things. With this and that it's much easier to regulate, I think it is worth the trade-offs.
    - mdp2021 1y ago
      > easier to regulate Not really easy, I'd say. > trade-offs If you mean barring general access, than your evaluation is debatable. But especially: if the concern is with some forms of possibly "certified traumatic" depictions (and I believe this would raise a hell of a needed research and nuances revelation), why not just attacking the "certified traumatic" depictions?
- tennisflyi 1y ago
  > Lot's of internet porn is either real or simulated abuse. That's my gripe. Vixen is veeeery different than some other websites under the guise of "porn" - they're going to ruin it for all of us
dotancohen 1y ago
A porn magazine showing a man holding a woman is probably not harmful considering modern Western society and values. However the last time that I tried to stimulate myself with online porn it was full of slapping, and acts which I don't consider to be part of normal casual or romantic sex.

Why is online porn harmful to children? most people grow up fine with it

gjsman-1000 1y ago

If social media is harmful to children, there's no way porn isn't.

QuercusMax 1y ago

There's a huge variety of super messed up stuff available online.

ajsnigrutin 1y ago
Yeah... like someone cutting half his hand off to show he's a robot underneath... after many people were killed in that movie. Hey, they even marketed the toys to kids. Same for many other movies from that era.
- mystraline 1y ago
  Yes, and if I had listened to children's shows when I grew up, I could blow up my enemies with ACME explosives, or drop them off cliffs, or fire high power rifles, and dispose of my enemies. Oh wait. That was Hanna Barbera, Disney, Looney Tunes, and the like. Later childhood after watching the re-re-repeats of 1960's shows, was learning about hatred, racism, and what the 'normies' would do to you, no matter what you did or didn't do. And, Magneto was right.

animal_spirits 1y ago

Lot's of internet porn is either real or simulated abuse. I'm not an expert but based on anecdotal experience abuse kinks are largely related to some history of abuse or trauma experienced by the individual. I think it's fine for adults to have these kinks and explore their sexuality but exposing it to children can normalize sexual abuse among youths, which again I am close with someone who's had a personal experience with this.

mdp2021 1y ago
But what do you mean with "can". Children are exposed to liars, to fools, to the stupid, to the unwise, to the corrupted in malice, to the weak in will... Since a very young age. «Exposing» such frequent faults to children does not «normalize» it. It may, if the child is in a generally bad environment - but then, the target is the core environment, not the outer experience.
- animal_spirits 1y ago
  Yes there are "bad" things children can be exposed to. But the difference is the lifelong real trauma caused by sexual abuse. Yes kids can learn lying from the internet, or see people smoking, etc. But if you are a pre-teen that sexually abuses another pre-teen (which happens _very_ common surprisingly) it has an enormous capacity for harm compared to other "bad" things. With this and that it's much easier to regulate, I think it is worth the trade-offs.
  - mdp2021 1y ago
    > easier to regulate Not really easy, I'd say. > trade-offs If you mean barring general access, than your evaluation is debatable. But especially: if the concern is with some forms of possibly "certified traumatic" depictions (and I believe this would raise a hell of a needed research and nuances revelation), why not just attacking the "certified traumatic" depictions?
tennisflyi 1y ago
> Lot's of internet porn is either real or simulated abuse. That's my gripe. Vixen is veeeery different than some other websites under the guise of "porn" - they're going to ruin it for all of us

dotancohen 1y ago

A porn magazine showing a man holding a woman is probably not harmful considering modern Western society and values. However the last time that I tried to stimulate myself with online porn it was full of slapping, and acts which I don't consider to be part of normal casual or romantic sex.