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> Isnt the commission basically just he executive branch of the EU? The European Commission is both the executive and legal branch. They propose the legislatio
by sam_lowry_ 1y ago
> Isnt the commission basically just he executive branch of the EU?
The European Commission is both the executive and legal branch. They propose the legislation that the European Parliament can only approve or reject. On the other hand, the European Patliament can not propose anything at all.
- layer8 1y agoThat’s not quite accurate. There is an extended process in which the Parliament and the Council can give input and propose and discuss changes to the Commission’s proposal, to work out a compromise: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_legislative_procedure#Ordinary_legislative_procedure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_legislative_pro...
- tmp10423288442 1y agoHow feasible is it in practice? In the US, it's possible in practice to remove officials via impeachment as well as amend the constitution, but in practice they are almost impossible to achieve. In practice the legislature is almost deadlocked for most non-budget bills as well, so the executive ends up running the country, with an assist from the judiciary.
- layer8 1y agoReaching agreement through the trilogue is the standard practice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilogue_meeting#Increasing_usage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilogue_meeting#Increasing_us...
- sam_lowry_ 1y agoYes, and they are non-public and they effectively excluse parliamentary debates.
- sam_lowry_ 1y agoYou are even less accurate. The Council is not an independent body. It represents the member states directly. The Commission is elected by member states and thus represents them indirectly.
- layer8 1y agoAnd all of them represent the EU citizens who elected both the Parliament and the Member States governments. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. The point I tried to make is that the Parliament has significant input to the legislation in the process, it’s not just a binary yes or no.
- ajb 1y agoThe commission is not elected, it is appointed by the member states (I think it should be elected, but I'm in the UK so wouldn't have a vote anyway)
- sam_lowry_ 1y agoAppointed, Thanks for the correction.
- qnpnp 1y agoIt's common for the executive branch to have the right to propose legislation, and often the main way legislation is proposed in many countries. While I agree this should ideally also be available to the EP, it doesn't make the EC a legislative branch. It's very much the executive.