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You believe a state propaganda feed? In 2025?? 450 people arrested. I am skeptical of even that number. 450 working here illegally? Ok… prove it. Names and vis

You believe a state propaganda feed? In 2025?? 450 people arrested. I am skeptical of even that number. 450 working here illegally? Ok… prove it. Names and visa statuses please. The raid happened yesterday, you’re telling me they have conclusive proof 450 people are working illegally less than 24 hours later? Not remotely likely Much more likely? 450 koreans working here legally but not carrying papers on them because american is supposed to be a free country.

guywithahat 1y ago
Are you just following me around to every comment? I am not an immigration judge or a prophet, so I don't know how every case will turn out, but 450 is a lot. It's enough that even if some are here legally, as would be expected since people are detained for reasonable suspicion not proof, it would still be hundreds of illegal immigrants. Most of the immigrants are not from South Korea, they're from central/south america. My understanding of the situation so far is that some South Koreans came here to manage the project, some on questionable visas themselves, and they hired hundreds of laborers (illegally). If you want to build a factory in the US you should follow the laws we have, you can't pick and choose which laws to follow.
- kennywinker 1y ago
  Actually you can, you just have to make sure to pay off the right maga people. Some examples: https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-grants-president-donald-j-trump-2025-present https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-grants-president-don... And no, not following you - just replying to all the comments that blindly believe a state media outlet from a gov run by kleptocrats.
aerostable_slug 1y ago
> not carrying papers on them because american is supposed to be a free country The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) requires every noncitizen who is 18 years old and over to carry evidence of their immigration “registration documents” at all times. Noncitizens refer to lawful permanent residents (green card holders) and other nonimmigrants in the U.S., including but not limited to foreign students, exchange visitors, and foreign workers. “Registration documents” effectively refer to valid immigration documents.
- kennywinker 1y ago
  Great unreasonable legal requirement! Now you can deport anyone who left their passport in their hotel room. I hear ICE is hiring, they’d love this stuff.
  - aerostable_slug 1y ago
    In other countries even citizens have to carry identification at all times. I don't see why requiring noncitizens to do the same is particularly onerous. Also, detained != deported. If you have been stopped by a police officer for a traffic ticket and couldn't leave at will, you were being detained too. Hyperbole isn't helpful.
    - vkou 1y ago
      > Also, detained != deported. In 2025, people go from one to the other without ever getting a chance to legally contest it. Hell, they go from one to the other when they win the legal contest. There's no need to play Devil's advocate for this.
    - acdha 1y ago
      > In other countries even citizens have to carry identification at all times. We spent the entire Cold War criticizing “papers, please” culture so at the very least seems like we should recognize this as a major change and do something old-fashioned like passing a law to make it legal. The free countries like France or Spain which have similar requirements have actual legal authorization making the terms clear.
      - aerostable_slug 1y ago
        We did. The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) requires every noncitizen who is 18 years old and over to carry evidence of their immigration “registration documents” at all times.
        acdha 1y ago
anonfordays 1y ago
>You believe a state propaganda feed? In 2025?? "Trust the experts!" >Much more likely? 450 koreans working here legally but not carrying papers on them because american is supposed to be a free country. The facts will inevitably be: hundreds of Korean nationals were illegally working in the US. The correction will be a small blurb somewhere, posted months from now, after the next fake new outrage comes about.
- kennywinker 1y ago
  > "Trust the experts!" Trust the experts only makes sense if you’re talking about something where experts exist, and are speaking. ICE et all is a goon squad, and most of their employees have only a high school diploma and a few months experience driving around in white vans disappearing seniors. If i need that done, i know who to trust. If i need the truth? They are not experts in the truth. But ok, let’s say we believe them. By their own stats, 30% of the people they arrest are let go without charges or deportation. So by their own accounting, 450 arrests will be 315 deportation/incarcerations, and 135 people treated like cattle for having the wrong skin color or an accent. And given the complete lack of due process why on earth should we even believe them about the 315?
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- defrost 1y ago
  Given all that has happened in the past 220+ days it is more probable that the real underlying truth will be this is a targeted raid to either enact revenge upon Georgia for not playing ball with Trump v1.0, and/or to exert pressure on Hyundai and South Korea to squeeze more juice.
  - anonfordays 1y ago

guywithahat 1y ago

Are you just following me around to every comment? I am not an immigration judge or a prophet, so I don't know how every case will turn out, but 450 is a lot. It's enough that even if some are here legally, as would be expected since people are detained for reasonable suspicion not proof, it would still be hundreds of illegal immigrants. Most of the immigrants are not from South Korea, they're from central/south america. My understanding of the situation so far is that some South Koreans came here to manage the project, some on questionable visas themselves, and they hired hundreds of laborers (illegally). If you want to build a factory in the US you should follow the laws we have, you can't pick and choose which laws to follow.

kennywinker 1y ago
Actually you can, you just have to make sure to pay off the right maga people. Some examples: https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-grants-president-donald-j-trump-2025-present https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-grants-president-don... And no, not following you - just replying to all the comments that blindly believe a state media outlet from a gov run by kleptocrats.

aerostable_slug 1y ago

> not carrying papers on them because american is supposed to be a free country The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) requires every noncitizen who is 18 years old and over to carry evidence of their immigration “registration documents” at all times. Noncitizens refer to lawful permanent residents (green card holders) and other nonimmigrants in the U.S., including but not limited to foreign students, exchange visitors, and foreign workers. “Registration documents” effectively refer to valid immigration documents.

kennywinker 1y ago
Great unreasonable legal requirement! Now you can deport anyone who left their passport in their hotel room. I hear ICE is hiring, they’d love this stuff.
- aerostable_slug 1y ago
  In other countries even citizens have to carry identification at all times. I don't see why requiring noncitizens to do the same is particularly onerous. Also, detained != deported. If you have been stopped by a police officer for a traffic ticket and couldn't leave at will, you were being detained too. Hyperbole isn't helpful.
  - vkou 1y ago
    > Also, detained != deported. In 2025, people go from one to the other without ever getting a chance to legally contest it. Hell, they go from one to the other when they win the legal contest. There's no need to play Devil's advocate for this.
  - acdha 1y ago
    > In other countries even citizens have to carry identification at all times. We spent the entire Cold War criticizing “papers, please” culture so at the very least seems like we should recognize this as a major change and do something old-fashioned like passing a law to make it legal. The free countries like France or Spain which have similar requirements have actual legal authorization making the terms clear.
    - aerostable_slug 1y ago
      We did. The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) requires every noncitizen who is 18 years old and over to carry evidence of their immigration “registration documents” at all times.
      - acdha 1y ago

anonfordays 1y ago

>You believe a state propaganda feed? In 2025?? "Trust the experts!" >Much more likely? 450 koreans working here legally but not carrying papers on them because american is supposed to be a free country. The facts will inevitably be: hundreds of Korean nationals were illegally working in the US. The correction will be a small blurb somewhere, posted months from now, after the next fake new outrage comes about.

kennywinker 1y ago
> "Trust the experts!" Trust the experts only makes sense if you’re talking about something where experts exist, and are speaking. ICE et all is a goon squad, and most of their employees have only a high school diploma and a few months experience driving around in white vans disappearing seniors. If i need that done, i know who to trust. If i need the truth? They are not experts in the truth. But ok, let’s say we believe them. By their own stats, 30% of the people they arrest are let go without charges or deportation. So by their own accounting, 450 arrests will be 315 deportation/incarcerations, and 135 people treated like cattle for having the wrong skin color or an accent. And given the complete lack of due process why on earth should we even believe them about the 315?
- anonfordays 1y ago
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defrost 1y ago
Given all that has happened in the past 220+ days it is more probable that the real underlying truth will be this is a targeted raid to either enact revenge upon Georgia for not playing ball with Trump v1.0, and/or to exert pressure on Hyundai and South Korea to squeeze more juice.
- anonfordays 1y ago