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And all defaults set? Yeah you’re gonna have a bad time. Disable voice recording storage Disable "Help Improve Alexa" Manage skill permissions Turn off Amazon

by nizbit 1y ago

And all defaults set? Yeah you’re gonna have a bad time. Disable voice recording storage Disable "Help Improve Alexa" Manage skill permissions Turn off Amazon Sidewalk But in the end you have a 3rd party passive listening device. Depends if you trust that 3rd party I guess. And after that post on x, I’m sure that person disconnected all the Alexa’s in their home right?

aaron695 1y ago
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HPsquared 1y ago
Most people already have a phone, laptop, maybe a watch, maybe the TV remote.. And lots of apps on each one. Any one of which could be listening in. It's a crazy situation.
- m463 1y ago
  I remember years ago, when viruses were common, watching kids use computers... OK Install Accept [X] Upgrade and they never want to clear their cookies and lose their logins.
- ptx 1y ago
  Android has a button in the quick settings bar to enable/disable the microphone, which helps with this (as long as you trust the OS itself). I keep it disabled most of the time.
- oarla 1y ago
  I wish my phone was just listening. It’s actually much worse https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43799802 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43799802
  - IIsi50MHz 1y ago
    That thread's too old for me to reply, but for me this "eerie ad for what we just talked about" went away when I disabled "Ok Google" detection.
- Cthulhu_ 1y ago
  At least the phones, at least theoretically, will ask first and/or show an indicator when they're recording.
- pixxel 1y ago
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IlikeKitties 1y ago
I don't want to life in a world where i have to setup DMZs, filters and special magic incantations to use my devices without them turning into literal spying device listening to every word i say. What the fuck.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 1y ago
  We are already here. As the volume of code/technology increases, it should be clear that systems need strong permission boundaries. It is impossible to meaningfully audit all dependencies and services. If my desktop music player has an exploit, it should not be possible that it can read my SSH keys. Node supply chain hacks keep occurring where your development environment can leak your private data. Mobile OS have this isolation already, but desktop is sure to slowly follow. I think we might eventually get to a point where even code libraries get assigned capabilities (eg libxml does not have network access).
  - stevage 1y ago
    The thing I found most surprising here was how many devices that person has on their network. In my house, it's a phone and computer per person, plus a chromecast. That's it.
- jychang 1y ago
  Meh, your smartphone is already the ultimate spying device that comes with microphones and triangulates your location from 3 cell towers. The government doesn’t need more spyware than that.
  - stevage 1y ago
    I'm less worried about the government than multinational corporations.
    - johnisgood 1y ago
      You should be, because multinational corporations can't put you in a cage, the Government can.

by nizbit 1y ago

aaron695 1y ago

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HPsquared 1y ago

Most people already have a phone, laptop, maybe a watch, maybe the TV remote.. And lots of apps on each one. Any one of which could be listening in. It's a crazy situation.

m463 1y ago
I remember years ago, when viruses were common, watching kids use computers... OK Install Accept [X] Upgrade and they never want to clear their cookies and lose their logins.
ptx 1y ago
Android has a button in the quick settings bar to enable/disable the microphone, which helps with this (as long as you trust the OS itself). I keep it disabled most of the time.
oarla 1y ago
I wish my phone was just listening. It’s actually much worse https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43799802 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43799802
- IIsi50MHz 1y ago
  That thread's too old for me to reply, but for me this "eerie ad for what we just talked about" went away when I disabled "Ok Google" detection.
Cthulhu_ 1y ago
At least the phones, at least theoretically, will ask first and/or show an indicator when they're recording.
pixxel 1y ago
[dead]

IlikeKitties 1y ago

I don't want to life in a world where i have to setup DMZs, filters and special magic incantations to use my devices without them turning into literal spying device listening to every word i say. What the fuck.

0cf8612b2e1e 1y ago
We are already here. As the volume of code/technology increases, it should be clear that systems need strong permission boundaries. It is impossible to meaningfully audit all dependencies and services. If my desktop music player has an exploit, it should not be possible that it can read my SSH keys. Node supply chain hacks keep occurring where your development environment can leak your private data. Mobile OS have this isolation already, but desktop is sure to slowly follow. I think we might eventually get to a point where even code libraries get assigned capabilities (eg libxml does not have network access).
- stevage 1y ago
  The thing I found most surprising here was how many devices that person has on their network. In my house, it's a phone and computer per person, plus a chromecast. That's it.
jychang 1y ago
Meh, your smartphone is already the ultimate spying device that comes with microphones and triangulates your location from 3 cell towers. The government doesn’t need more spyware than that.
- stevage 1y ago
  I'm less worried about the government than multinational corporations.
  - johnisgood 1y ago
    You should be, because multinational corporations can't put you in a cage, the Government can.