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> Trying to exclude AI from education is not only pointless, it's doing the kids a disservice: AI is going to be a large part of their future, so it needs to be
by aprilthird2021 1y ago
> Trying to exclude AI from education is not only pointless, it's doing the kids a disservice: AI is going to be a large part of their future, so it needs to be a large part of their education.
Hard hard hard hard disagree.
Everyone uses a calculator, even to calculate tips at a restaurant, but kids still need to learn arithmetic without a calculator's aid first.
I spent my CS education learning things that I never come across in my practical career, but I would have been done a disservice and be worse at my career if I just practiced what my career was going to be.
> I know education is not entirely vocational, but if it moves too far from the world of work that everyone actually spends most of their time in, then it gets too theoretical and academic.
Again, hard disagree. Most people's jobs go up a ladder where the entry level is not at all like academia, and as you become responsible for larger and larger autonomous units and divisions, etc. your work becomes more and more theoretical and academic, more about experimenting, formulating theses about the world, testing your hypothesis, being flexible as the results come in, etc.
- Ekaros 1y agoI think lot of education is making students to be aware things that exist. And at least have some starting point to search for when they need a thing. And to achieve that exact goal they need to actually do something with it. Somehow practise some level of skill. And I don't think using AI does this. Or even allow them to look for things that might exist. Recent example for me was big cookie cutters. Didn't even consider that such things were around. Saw a set on Temu and it clicked. I could get 15cm wide cutter instead of finding some bowl or something...
- marcus_holmes 1y ago> Everyone uses a calculator, even to calculate tips at a restaurant, but kids still need to learn arithmetic without a calculator's aid first. citation needed I was rapped across the knuckles by a sadistic primary school teacher for failing to learn my times table fast enough. Everyone said I absolutely needed to learn this because I would not always have access to a calculator. Here I am, literally carrying a calculator with me every second of my life. I've spent more time and money getting therapy for the shit my teachers did to me trying to teach me the times table than I've saved using it.
- noisy_boy 1y agoI don't need to get my phone out to do simple mental calculations - also hones your something-is-off radar for blatant mistakes. One horrible teacher != Negating a useful skill wholesale