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>> Since we will be using all of the above for the next 20 years... As if Apple had invented all of those things. They didn't. Far, far from it.

by WayneDB 14y ago

batista 14y ago
As if anyone except history books and nerds care who DID invent them. What matters is who made them popular and got them in our collective hands en masse. That's when the revolution starts, when people start buying them so you have improvements and cheaper price due to economies of scale, and you also get an ecosystem of apps, etc. Tablets pre-iPad might as well have been non-existing. Same for smartphones pre iPhone. I had several (Nokia, Sony Erricson etc. After the iPhone you couldn't stand this crap for a moment). I also had 2-3 mp3 players pre iPod. Including some bizarro Sony's own format players. Not even close to what we expect post-iPod.
kahawe 14y ago
Apple created the modern smartphone; they did definitely not invent all the necessary technologies but they were absolutely the first ones to come up with a package that people actually loved and bought. Before that, such a package did definitely NOT exist. Together with the "Apps" and AppStore, that is a market that Apple created. And they did the same with the tablet, they created a market that did not exist before - from existing technologies.
- WayneDB 14y ago
  Sorry, but many, many people actually loved and bought other smartphones before Apple. Apple stands on the shoulders of giants like Nokia, Palm and Blackberry (aka Crackberry).
  - kahawe 14y ago
    I know. That's why I said: the modern smartphone. I have used a couple of those you mentioned and they just weren't the same. I doubt they even remotely pushed the kind of crazy numbers Apple and Androids are seeing each year now.
    - WayneDB 14y ago
      Yes, but that's also why I said that they didn't "create" the modern smartphone. Everything that they "created" already existed before they came along. There's no doubt that they packaged things very nicely and have been very successful, but it's not as if they created this market out of thin air. They surely did not invent the general concept that they've been so successful implementing.
      - kahawe 14y ago
        The market for smartphones you see now? Teens, kids, moms and everyone else? Yes, they created that. And they created the package, granted out of existing technologies but the package does matter.

>> Since we will be using all of the above for the next 20 years... As if Apple had invented all of those things. They didn't. Far, far from it.

by WayneDB 14y ago

>> Since we will be using all of the above for the next 20 years... As if Apple had invented all of those things. They didn't. Far, far from it.

batista 14y ago

As if anyone except history books and nerds care who DID invent them. What matters is who made them popular and got them in our collective hands en masse. That's when the revolution starts, when people start buying them so you have improvements and cheaper price due to economies of scale, and you also get an ecosystem of apps, etc. Tablets pre-iPad might as well have been non-existing. Same for smartphones pre iPhone. I had several (Nokia, Sony Erricson etc. After the iPhone you couldn't stand this crap for a moment). I also had 2-3 mp3 players pre iPod. Including some bizarro Sony's own format players. Not even close to what we expect post-iPod.

kahawe 14y ago

Apple created the modern smartphone; they did definitely not invent all the necessary technologies but they were absolutely the first ones to come up with a package that people actually loved and bought. Before that, such a package did definitely NOT exist. Together with the "Apps" and AppStore, that is a market that Apple created. And they did the same with the tablet, they created a market that did not exist before - from existing technologies.

WayneDB 14y ago
Sorry, but many, many people actually loved and bought other smartphones before Apple. Apple stands on the shoulders of giants like Nokia, Palm and Blackberry (aka Crackberry).
- kahawe 14y ago
  I know. That's why I said: the modern smartphone. I have used a couple of those you mentioned and they just weren't the same. I doubt they even remotely pushed the kind of crazy numbers Apple and Androids are seeing each year now.
  - WayneDB 14y ago
    Yes, but that's also why I said that they didn't "create" the modern smartphone. Everything that they "created" already existed before they came along. There's no doubt that they packaged things very nicely and have been very successful, but it's not as if they created this market out of thin air. They surely did not invent the general concept that they've been so successful implementing.
    - kahawe 14y ago
      The market for smartphones you see now? Teens, kids, moms and everyone else? Yes, they created that. And they created the package, granted out of existing technologies but the package does matter.