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Landlords increasing rent totally sounds like part of a free market entrepreneurs wet dream to me! If I’m a free market entrepreneur the last thing I want is pe

Landlords increasing rent totally sounds like part of a free market entrepreneurs wet dream to me! If I’m a free market entrepreneur the last thing I want is pesky rent controls limiting my ability to provide supply! Have you ever rented? Did they ever decrease your rent when the economy was looking down or do you acknowledge that they don’t actually care about the income of their tenants insofar as they can extract revenue from someone? You must feel that a free market cares that some people will no longer be able to afford rent; I don’t believe the economic definition of a free market includes such an idea; I think it’s very happy to displace people from their homes in order to shuffle in those who are willing to pay higher rents; see also: gentrification Your point hinges on the idea that rent for people making wages below “SFBay A.I. engineer” is not increasing or would not increase because of the inelasticity of these consumers to price increases; can you substantiate this claim in any way? It’s also worth noting that there are lots of government grants going towards electrification of vehicles including installation of EV chargers, so even removing your idea about landlords refusing to raise rents because they are worried about their tenants (lol) there is still easy room for landlords to get grants to pay for the installation/maintenance of these chargers anyways.

altairprime 1y ago
> wet dream This repeated and explicitly-sexual metaphor in a non-sexual context is rather wearisome. > You must feel that a free market cares A free market does not qualify for use the property of 'caring'. Neither emotions nor intentions are a property of a 'market', free or otherwise, and I categorically reject all statements, inferences, and/or implications to the contrary (such as "that a free market cares"). > can you substantiate this claim in any way? I made a statement in public for all to hear, I am unable to defend the statements I make, and am simply unwilling to have a reasoned discussion. You have been unfailing polite, and I have been nothing but rude.
- cherry_tree 1y ago
  > This repeated and explicitly-sexual metaphor in a non-sexual context is rather wearisome. Thanks for the English lit critique I guess but your opinion on various colloquialisms in the English language is not relevant to the conversation. Your other points are similarly irrelevant to the convo, you use the idea of a market “caring” literally, claiming that of course a market doesn’t have emotions and can’t care which is plainly trying to deflect your suggestion that the market could never reach position x because it’s ultimately unprofitable for a landlord to engage in some behavior long term and you refused to materially respond to or acknowledge any of my points. Your post is abstracted from reality further than the idea that a market could “care” about something being taken literally. Obviously the market is not a human with wants, cares or needs. > I made a statement in public for all to hear, I am unable to defend the statements I make Well I’ve asked for you to defend them and this was your response so I assume you are being genuine instead of sarcastic here? Why respond at all I wonder. If you can point to where I’m being impolite or offended you I’m happy to acknowledge this; I wasn’t planning to have a conversation with someone so sensitive that things like “I think your idea is bad” is a personal insult or impolite.

altairprime 1y ago

> wet dream This repeated and explicitly-sexual metaphor in a non-sexual context is rather wearisome. > You must feel that a free market cares A free market does not qualify for use the property of 'caring'. Neither emotions nor intentions are a property of a 'market', free or otherwise, and I categorically reject all statements, inferences, and/or implications to the contrary (such as "that a free market cares"). > can you substantiate this claim in any way? I made a statement in public for all to hear, I am unable to defend the statements I make, and am simply unwilling to have a reasoned discussion. You have been unfailing polite, and I have been nothing but rude.

cherry_tree 1y ago
> This repeated and explicitly-sexual metaphor in a non-sexual context is rather wearisome. Thanks for the English lit critique I guess but your opinion on various colloquialisms in the English language is not relevant to the conversation. Your other points are similarly irrelevant to the convo, you use the idea of a market “caring” literally, claiming that of course a market doesn’t have emotions and can’t care which is plainly trying to deflect your suggestion that the market could never reach position x because it’s ultimately unprofitable for a landlord to engage in some behavior long term and you refused to materially respond to or acknowledge any of my points. Your post is abstracted from reality further than the idea that a market could “care” about something being taken literally. Obviously the market is not a human with wants, cares or needs. > I made a statement in public for all to hear, I am unable to defend the statements I make Well I’ve asked for you to defend them and this was your response so I assume you are being genuine instead of sarcastic here? Why respond at all I wonder. If you can point to where I’m being impolite or offended you I’m happy to acknowledge this; I wasn’t planning to have a conversation with someone so sensitive that things like “I think your idea is bad” is a personal insult or impolite.