You're yelling at the wrong guy. What @debacle said was "You can't use process to turn a bad programmer into a mediocre one - any process that does will also tu

You're yelling at the wrong guy. What @debacle said was "You can't use process to turn a bad programmer into a mediocre one - any process that does will also turn a great programmer into just a mediocre one." That's decidedly not "cowboy programmer bullshit". If your response was directed at @fingerprinter's statement that "having nothing and good developers you trust is always going to be more productive", then maybe you should have been rude to him instead of @debacle. I think @debacle nailed it. One of the major problems with all the processes I've ever seen is that people (large corporations, mostly) expect them to solve the problem of having teams made of bad or mediocre programmers. It's quite similar to the idea that you can solve just about any problem with technology.