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One thing you have to experience to really get it, that cannot be simulated with a mechanical suit or transmitted through words, is all the f-ing little aches y

by HSO 1y ago

One thing you have to experience to really get it, that cannot be simulated with a mechanical suit or transmitted through words, is all the f-ing little aches you get past a certain point. I´m now convinced it is this that makes older people cranky. Some days, my body is just constantly in a low but annoying pain somewhere, and it seems in increasingly weird, obscure places you never even thought about. I dont even remember when or how it started but although I would be considered fit by most people, now I have to watch my running, otherwise ITBS, I have to watch my pull exercises, otherwise shoulder impingement syndrome, I have to watch my dips, otherwise elbows, hell even after just _sleeping_ I have to roll and stretch my neck out because it hurts just from lying apparently. I used to scoff about warmup, now I take it really, really seriously. "Going with the flow" of the moment, instead of sticking to a carefully dosed plan? That´s for young bodies! Thankfully I can still use my full range of motion everywhere but Im acutely aware now how quickly it can all go away and how long any overuse or even minor injury now costs me in recovery. Getting older has its benefits too but mostly mental, in physical terms I cannot think of a single benefit.

IAmGraydon 1y ago
How old are you?
- BubbleRings 1y ago
  And how much caffeine do you drink?
- tempestn 1y ago
  I'm not the parent, but could've written all the same (44).
  - IAmGraydon 1y ago
    I’m 43, and though I seem to get more injuries in the gym since I hit 40 (usually tendon overuse), I’ve noticed that proper nutrition and good sleep make a big difference in how my body feels. I also go to the gym at 5:30am and do an hour of free weight strength training 4 days per week. If you guys are hurting all the time in your 40s, I would really advise you to do a full assessment of what you’re putting in your body and what kind of message you’re sending your body with your exercise routine. It might also be a good idea to get checked for markers of inflammation as well as testosterone levels. You should not have constant nagging pain at your age.
    - tempestn 1y ago
      It's not literally pain all the time. More things like you said - much easier to overdo it in the gym or playing sports, especially if you don't warm up and cool down properly, plus occasional ridiculous injuries, like stretching too hard in the morning and having a muscle in your neck spasm as a result.
- layman51 1y ago
  I think these kinds of aches start happening to a non-negligible number of people beginning in their early 30s. It isn’t that they can’t still be active, it’s just that they have to be diligent about warming up their joints before certain exercises, whereas before they may not have had to even consider warming up.
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Karrot_Kream 1y ago
This is one of the big psychological benefits of being physically active. If you're fairly physically active, e.g. doing 60+ min of high heart rate cardio or intense anaerobic exercise a day, you'll always be sore somewhere. Maybe it's your thighs from yesterday's squats. Your lower back from a long run. Your elbow when you tried that dynamic move on a climb you've been projecting. And once you accept and embrace that minor pain you become a lot better at psychologically dealing with the small constant pain that comes with aging. Also if you ever compete in a physical activity at more than just a "with your friends" level, you'll quickly find that whether you're 15 or 50 warming up makes a huge difference. A lot of the problems of aging that I suspect folks today are facing are the problems of leading a fairly sedentary lifestyle.
- 0xffff2 1y ago
  > doing 60+ min of high heart rate cardio or intense anaerobic exercise a day, Per day?? Does anyone really do that? I aim for a bit more than 60 minutes a week.
  - Karrot_Kream 1y ago
    > If you're fairly physically active > (meaning well above most state-recommended guidelines) So yeah some people do. High level amateur and pro athletes put in much, much more. I view it as a cheat code to lead a longer, healthier life. While my less active friends are complaining about lower back pain shuffling into their cars, I'm able to carry large boxes up many flights of stairs with minimal issue. FWIW I used to have awful digestion issues before I started working out regularly and now have gone back to my teenage baseline of guzzling peppers and chili oil.
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- AngryData 1y ago
  That is an interesting idea and it follows some patterns I previously noticed with friends. The ones who are not or never were physically active are all complaining about aches and pains and acting like they are old men twice their age just doing basic household things. I kind of just chalked that up to them not being in shape, but it never really fully explained the extent of their complaints. However I grew up with a very physical life working on the farm and doing trade work since forever. By every measure I should be the one complaining about aches and pains and old injuries and such, but perhaps because im so accustomed to pains just from work and more intense physical activity the age related stuff just hasn't hit me hard enough to really notice like they do.
sdeframond 1y ago
Not OP but it started happening to me a few years ago. I'm 37 now and it is slowly getting worse. The only thing that keeps it at bay is regular exercise, both strength and mobility. I'm careful about running.
throwawaylaptop 1y ago
I can't argue if it's 'healthy' or not, but anecdotal accounts say that going meat only cures most of these pains in about 30 days. I've tried it. 65 year old dad tried it. Coworkers and friends. It worked for everyone. No one has remained meat only, but it taught us all to watch what we eat like hawks.
- SlowTao 1y ago
  I mean, it is a hard line elimination diet. If you watch what happens with reintroduction, you can provably figure out where the issues are.
  - throwawaylaptop 1y ago
    Yup, but getting people to try it involve so much effort you only really do it for people you care about. It's amazing how resistant people are to eating only meat for a month or two, but drinking alcohol is no problem. Chemical preservatives? No problem. Added sugars? No problem. Seed oils washed in solvents? No problem.
- brewdad 1y ago
  Not sure if "meat only" can be a cure-all but anecdotally, I feel better when I reduce my gluten intake. I've never been diagnosed with a wheat sensitivity but my son has been forced to go gluten free because of one. When he is home on school breaks, we eat gluten free and I do notice a difference in how I feel. I'm not giving up beer or the once a month pizza anytime soon but I have made conscious decisions to reduce my overall gluten intake.
  - throwawaylaptop 1y ago
    My point was that for everyone I've seen try it, meat only has been a cure-all. If that's just because it gets to stop eating all the chemical preservatives, or the adding sugars, or the seed oils, or if it's because a tomato is bad for you I don't know.. but I'm just saying that if someone has mild joint pains in day to day life, I'm basically 90% sure a meat only diet would stop them. Why that is exactly, I'm not sure. How much could they add back and still not have the joint paint... I have decent ideas about that.
peepee1982 1y ago
Yes. I am 42 and feel and am fitter than at any other point in my life (I started taking care of myself in my 30s). The joint pain is the only thing that makes me feel old right now. And I don't think there's much I can do about it. (although I'll be happy for suggestions.)

by HSO 1y ago

IAmGraydon 1y ago

How old are you?

BubbleRings 1y ago
And how much caffeine do you drink?
tempestn 1y ago
I'm not the parent, but could've written all the same (44).
- IAmGraydon 1y ago
  I’m 43, and though I seem to get more injuries in the gym since I hit 40 (usually tendon overuse), I’ve noticed that proper nutrition and good sleep make a big difference in how my body feels. I also go to the gym at 5:30am and do an hour of free weight strength training 4 days per week. If you guys are hurting all the time in your 40s, I would really advise you to do a full assessment of what you’re putting in your body and what kind of message you’re sending your body with your exercise routine. It might also be a good idea to get checked for markers of inflammation as well as testosterone levels. You should not have constant nagging pain at your age.
  - tempestn 1y ago
    It's not literally pain all the time. More things like you said - much easier to overdo it in the gym or playing sports, especially if you don't warm up and cool down properly, plus occasional ridiculous injuries, like stretching too hard in the morning and having a muscle in your neck spasm as a result.
layman51 1y ago
I think these kinds of aches start happening to a non-negligible number of people beginning in their early 30s. It isn’t that they can’t still be active, it’s just that they have to be diligent about warming up their joints before certain exercises, whereas before they may not have had to even consider warming up.
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Karrot_Kream 1y ago

This is one of the big psychological benefits of being physically active. If you're fairly physically active, e.g. doing 60+ min of high heart rate cardio or intense anaerobic exercise a day, you'll always be sore somewhere. Maybe it's your thighs from yesterday's squats. Your lower back from a long run. Your elbow when you tried that dynamic move on a climb you've been projecting. And once you accept and embrace that minor pain you become a lot better at psychologically dealing with the small constant pain that comes with aging. Also if you ever compete in a physical activity at more than just a "with your friends" level, you'll quickly find that whether you're 15 or 50 warming up makes a huge difference. A lot of the problems of aging that I suspect folks today are facing are the problems of leading a fairly sedentary lifestyle.

0xffff2 1y ago
> doing 60+ min of high heart rate cardio or intense anaerobic exercise a day, Per day?? Does anyone really do that? I aim for a bit more than 60 minutes a week.
- Karrot_Kream 1y ago
  > If you're fairly physically active > (meaning well above most state-recommended guidelines) So yeah some people do. High level amateur and pro athletes put in much, much more. I view it as a cheat code to lead a longer, healthier life. While my less active friends are complaining about lower back pain shuffling into their cars, I'm able to carry large boxes up many flights of stairs with minimal issue. FWIW I used to have awful digestion issues before I started working out regularly and now have gone back to my teenage baseline of guzzling peppers and chili oil.
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AngryData 1y ago
That is an interesting idea and it follows some patterns I previously noticed with friends. The ones who are not or never were physically active are all complaining about aches and pains and acting like they are old men twice their age just doing basic household things. I kind of just chalked that up to them not being in shape, but it never really fully explained the extent of their complaints. However I grew up with a very physical life working on the farm and doing trade work since forever. By every measure I should be the one complaining about aches and pains and old injuries and such, but perhaps because im so accustomed to pains just from work and more intense physical activity the age related stuff just hasn't hit me hard enough to really notice like they do.

sdeframond 1y ago

Not OP but it started happening to me a few years ago. I'm 37 now and it is slowly getting worse. The only thing that keeps it at bay is regular exercise, both strength and mobility. I'm careful about running.

throwawaylaptop 1y ago

I can't argue if it's 'healthy' or not, but anecdotal accounts say that going meat only cures most of these pains in about 30 days. I've tried it. 65 year old dad tried it. Coworkers and friends. It worked for everyone. No one has remained meat only, but it taught us all to watch what we eat like hawks.

SlowTao 1y ago
I mean, it is a hard line elimination diet. If you watch what happens with reintroduction, you can provably figure out where the issues are.
- throwawaylaptop 1y ago
  Yup, but getting people to try it involve so much effort you only really do it for people you care about. It's amazing how resistant people are to eating only meat for a month or two, but drinking alcohol is no problem. Chemical preservatives? No problem. Added sugars? No problem. Seed oils washed in solvents? No problem.
brewdad 1y ago
Not sure if "meat only" can be a cure-all but anecdotally, I feel better when I reduce my gluten intake. I've never been diagnosed with a wheat sensitivity but my son has been forced to go gluten free because of one. When he is home on school breaks, we eat gluten free and I do notice a difference in how I feel. I'm not giving up beer or the once a month pizza anytime soon but I have made conscious decisions to reduce my overall gluten intake.
- throwawaylaptop 1y ago
  My point was that for everyone I've seen try it, meat only has been a cure-all. If that's just because it gets to stop eating all the chemical preservatives, or the adding sugars, or the seed oils, or if it's because a tomato is bad for you I don't know.. but I'm just saying that if someone has mild joint pains in day to day life, I'm basically 90% sure a meat only diet would stop them. Why that is exactly, I'm not sure. How much could they add back and still not have the joint paint... I have decent ideas about that.

peepee1982 1y ago

Yes. I am 42 and feel and am fitter than at any other point in my life (I started taking care of myself in my 30s). The joint pain is the only thing that makes me feel old right now. And I don't think there's much I can do about it. (although I'll be happy for suggestions.)